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Budget 383...Is there such a thing?

seems like some of these 383 builds could cost quite a bit of coin, especially if you don't have friends that work in engine machine shops. :( at what point does it make sense to just throw in a 454? see rebuilt ones in sub-$2000 rigs all the time... could prolly get a good running one for under $1k by the time you part out/scrap the rest of the rig...

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beater_k20 said:
actually, you're wrong on one part. while a 6" rod does allow for better upper rpm power, due to the piston dwelling at TDC longer, giving a more complete burn, the 6" rods also provide more leverage on the crank journal, allowing more of the force from the piston traveling to BDC to be fed to the crank.

as for 400hp with a stock TBI, or any out of the box TBI, dream on. TurboCity modifies throttle bodies that *could* get you to 400 hp, but having the injectors still hanging above the throttle bores really hurts power. the Holley manifold is a step over stock,yes. but you would have had better results with a carbed application intake and a TBI adapter.

:rolleyes: Ok...guess the guys with dyno sheets on thirdgen are wrong huh? who am i goin to believe... beater or a dyno... cause you've done all your homework on chip burning and tbi right? oh yeah.. show me where i said stock tbi... PLEASE. YOUR in your own little world. When you can figure out your not god we can talk.

Your comment about the carb to tbi adapter shows how much you know about tbi. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Why did i pull you off the ignore list? :doah:

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142118&highlight=rods
:whistle:

maybe you can learn something....
 
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dirtwarrior17 said:
maybe you can learn something....

but i'm sure as hell not going to learn it from some pimplefaced 17 year old punk who hasnt even built his own shortblock yet. BTW, my hands are still dirty from test assembling my latest shortblock... how about yours?
 
Dude honestly i could give a rats ass what you think about me or my rig. I'm pimple faced punk huh?...I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if you knew me... I'll be building a 383 within a year, burning custom fuel maps, doing a head and cam swap, and maybe a n20 kit. Say what you want.

It's just the net.

If we could have a face to face "discussion" and handle this I would but I'm sure that will never happen.
 
dirtwarrior17 said:
I'll be building a 383 within a year, burning custom fuel maps, doing a head and cam swap, and maybe a n20 kit. Say what you want.

what happened the the Sportman IIs on your existing engine? you just got this one running, why replace it? or are you just talking out of your rectum as usual? probably the later.

dirtwarrior17 said:
If we could have a face to face "discussion" and handle this I would but I'm sure that will never happen.

something tells me you're a little too hot headed for that, and would end up getting hurt.
 
sportsman 2's??? Uh wrong guy. I know better than using 200cc heads on a motor that needs tq as much as hp.

something tells me you're a little too hot headed for that, and would end up getting hurt.

:surepal: :rolleyes: :haha:

ok buddy.

I can handle myself... started tide end all through highschool. Actually i'm pretty laid back... you just push my button, then jump on it, then jump somemore. if it actually came to blows me getting hurt would be the least of your worries.

I'm done taking this OT...

Sorry kidj
 
tide end?

is that the guy who washes the uniforms? :haha: come on guys like 1 of ya said it just the net and when i 1st joined beater was like a thorn in my side but then i got used to it i know what i know and he can't take that from me, and now i see sometimes he actually brings up valid points ...stuff that i had looked over or not thought of...just get over it...can either of you tell me what displacement i would have if i run a 400 block bored .040 over that would be 4.165" with a 265 crank out of a mid 80's omega or the like with a 265 v8 with a 3" stroke? 4.165" bore with a 3" stroke?
 
oh yea, 1 more thing

i was on starting team all thru high school, on every team, punt return ,offense, defense, didn't come off the field from kickoff untill the game was over
we held the longest winning streak in high school football in the nation, and thats no bs! i have 4 state championships under my belt and i thought i was tough too, because coach drilled us and beat on us and i thought he was the toughest man on the planet and most of us on the team was up top too.......

then i got to meet my usmc drill instructor and he made my football coach look like a kindergarten teacher...you want to be sum1 join the marines thats something that will stay with you for life and its just not being a bada$$ its about respect you'll learn u get what you put out and when you get out of service you'll realize it holds true in civial life also..i think every 1 should have to turn at least a 2 yr tour in usmc!it would be a different america!

i spent 12 yrs there thats where i got my bsme and sometimes wish i would have stayed and retired out, but i was needed at home and if it hadn't been for all the training i had been thru i wouldn't have been able to help at home because most my friends that stayed in that little 14,000 population town didn't finish school all screwed up on drugs and theivies and such...i took care of my grandpa's business and when he died i sold it and moved from that armpit of society. and know i see the next generation coming up without any discipline or respect and wonder who is going to lead this country in 15-20 yrs...its absolutley scary
 
blazin_blazer said:
can either of you tell me what displacement i would have if i run a 400 block bored .040 over that would be 4.165" with a 265 crank out of a mid 80's omega or the like with a 265 v8 with a 3" stroke? 4.165" bore with a 3" stroke?

337.9 ci, the high revving way... on, ahd BTW, the 262 (3.1") is probably what you were after, the 265 was the first small block in '55. the small bearing journals of the 265 would be a problem getting it into a 400 block. larger bearing surfaces of the newer engines make them more reliable, although not quite as happy to rev. add a 307/327 crank and get around 350 cubes... all of these engines would still LOVE to rev regardless of bearing size.

i'd love to elaborate a little more on rod lengths and piston pin heights, but dont have time to do the math right now. maybe later.
 
dirtwarrior17 said:
ok buddy.

I can handle myself... started tide end all through highschool. Actually i'm pretty laid back... you just push my button, then jump on it, then jump somemore. if it actually came to blows me getting hurt would be the least of your worries.

ironically enough, i didnt play football, and regularly pounded the guys who did. they didnt say too much about it though, it doesnt look real good for a football player to get pounded by a member of the band. oh and trust me, i'm not the slightest bit worried about you getting hurt, that's a given.
 
LMAO... whatever dude. Now your threatening me from 1000 miles away? "I'm gonna get hurt" ROFL. Even if you did beat up a football player BFD... Pick the right ones and my ex girlfriend could send a few of em to the hospital.

Find somewhere else to act retarded.

Listen to the man.
 
Somone mentioned a 350 revvs up quicker than a 400.... Not in my experience. My 406 revs up twice as fast as my old 350 did....but I'd imagine a similar built 350 probably revs up quick too. Even though the 400 has a bigger crank, it has a larger bore to help compensate.
 
Now that I have a real job... I've started buying parts for my own 383 project. Mine is for my pickup, not my wheeling rig. Plan is to pull the current motor out of my pickup and put it in the wheeling rig. It's also going to be more for lower RPM stuff instead of high RPM stuff like what I'm used to.

I managed to build a 305 for $725 that made 190hp at the wheels... I'm planning on somewhere around 275hp at the wheels out of the 383 for not a whole lot more. Basically, it'll be around $400 more. The only difference is I have to buy a crank, flexplate, and damper and then have it balanced.

I don't think I could justify spending more than $1500 on a cast iron smallblock.
 
Looks like another good thread turned to crap! Whay dont some people just, oh forget it. Just not worth the time typing out a responce.
 
78Suburban said:
tis ok... warrior is gone... outa here... no more crapping up threads.. :bow:

More importantly, beater_k20 is gone. I guess I can change my signature now, eh?
 
CyberSniper said:
More importantly, beater_k20 is gone. I guess I can change my signature now, eh?
Don't be so sure. The root of it was DW, he was far worse.
 
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