here are some new pics of the bumper I posted last week. this is my first official tube project I have made. has worked out great so far. I still need to do the winch and mount bracketry and Im going to add a tube that connects at the end of the bumper and goes under the core support and ties in right behind where the stinger is connected. that will give alot of strength to a side impact and if its up against a rock it should not bend or push in with that tube gusset there.