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"C" Clip eliminator kits for 10bolt?

badmix

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How hard is it to install?

Is it worth the efforts and money?

Also would it work with my Loc-Rite rear locker


Thanks :woot:
 
Walk away from the idea!

A) C clip eliminator kits are not fit for street driving. They are made for running on the track because of NHRA rules in a straight line. Using them on the street will side load them and cause them to leak. I've never heard of them breaking but have been told its possible.

B) Your polishing a turd. I understand that you have the nice locker for the 10bolt already and clearly you dont need to step up to a 14bolt if your considering the c-clip eliminator but still.

C) Yes your locker will work. The C-clips have no bearing on the function of the locker or carrier.

I would look into a 14b SF or even a dana 60 full floater. Can I ask why you feel you need to ditch the c-clips?
 
Stomis said:
Ughh because hes looking for a rear with no c-clips? Plus depending on the spline count/shaft thickness its an upgrade.
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Spline count on a FF D60 is 19 or 30, both roughly the same 1.3" shafts that a 10/12 bolt or D44 will have.

No c-clips, yes, will hold up to bigger tires, not really.
 
Stomis said:
Right but the point of his question was eliminating c-clips
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Yep, and I think the info is out there to cover his question. There is a reason that 14 bolts are such a popular swap choice :pimp:

As mentioned, the c-clip eliminator kits aren't really that awesome. If you need something more than a 10 bolt, get a 14 bolt. Don't put money into a 10 bolt rear end.
 
38377k5 said:
Spline count on a FF D60 is 19 or 30, both roughly the same 1.3" shafts that a 10/12 bolt or D44 will have.

No c-clips, yes, will hold up to bigger tires, not really.
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So the shafts are the same size...it's a move from a SF to a FF. Plus it has no C-clips like the OP requested. How is that NOT an improvement?
 
cause dana axles have a small weak pinion bearing design compared to the 14ff with bigger bearings and also 3 bearings .
 
38377k5 said:
Yep, and I think the info is out there to cover his question. There is a reason that 14 bolts are such a popular swap choice :pimp:

As mentioned, the c-clip eliminator kits aren't really that awesome. If you need something more than a 10 bolt, get a 14 bolt. Don't put money into a 10 bolt rear end.
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The only reason I suggested the FF60 was because the way he worded his questions was it seemed that he didnt NEED a bigger axle simply wanted something with no c-clips. I'm not saying the 14 bolt isnt the be all end all for LD strength but its not the answer to everyone...

If hes running like 31s or 33s hed be much better served with an upgraded FF dana 60.

sweetk30 said:
cause dana axles have a small weak pinion bearing design compared to the 14ff with bigger bearings and also 3 bearings .
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Yeah but dont compare apples to oranges. We're talking relative strength of an 8.5 10 bolt c clip rear vs a dana 60 full floater. Personally I feel if hes running 31s or 33s and absolutely wants a full floater axle that he'd be much better suited with a full floater 60 with aftermarket shafts and a matching locker. He already said he had a locker already so I would think that matching a new spline count wouldnt be a huge deal.
 
Yea, im running 33s and ive got chromoly axles from strange in my truck along with loc rite locker. I just thought the C clip elimination kit was an easy thing. After research it involves some fab work. Id rather just hold off and upgrade to 14bff later on. Its just not in the works right now. .

Thanks everyone
 
We've got a number of members on here who made stock 10 bolts work just fine for 33's and even a bit bigger. I personally don't plan on going larger than 33's...MAYBE 35's...big maybe and not entirely likely...so my plans are just a Detroit and eventually some stronger aftermarket shafts. Call it good after that. Oh, and at some point a nice beefy cover when someone makes them.

Spin 33's or even 35's just fine. Cost less than a similar 14FF swap even. More ground clearance and less hassle.
Want to go hard core rock crawling or bogging with heavier tires, lots of traction, and more power? Time to upgrade.
 
I have ten bolts in my truck (an 86 short bed with new crate engine/700r4) and the only reason i didnt upgrade to the 1 tons were that i got a great deal on some modded ten bolts. The rear had been regeared to 4.10 and has a detroit locker with hardened shafts, the front have the same gearing with a detroit in it too and hardened shafts as well. I got them both for $600 in a craigslist find. For what i use my truck for(fire trails and getting to my favorite camping/shooting spot) they are perfect. I dont plan on nor will i ever crawl, go mudding or beat on the truck in an extreme way. It is too straight and rust free of a truck to do that too. I run BFG AT's 35's and have zero issues.
 
i know a guy who blew up 6-7 motors in 1 year.

had 3.08 gears and 10 bolts front/rear.

oh ya and 38x12.50x15 tsl swampers. did this for years on that truck. mud/trial/dd use. and he was hard on it. broke the frame 2-3 times.

10 bolt is strong but just whatch what ya do.
 
38377k5 said:
Spline count on a FF D60 is 19 or 30, both roughly the same 1.3" shafts that a 10/12 bolt or D44 will have.

No c-clips, yes, will hold up to bigger tires, not really.
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You don't consider a FF D60 an upgrade over a 10-bolt, really? Even if the shafts are identical in diameter and spline count the full-float version will hold up substantially better then a semi-float version. This is because there is only torsional load on the FF version where as there is a combination of torsional and bending loads on the SF shaft........basically, there is a lot more stress on a SF axle shaft. Not to mention the gears and diff are much, much bigger on the D60.

Sure, I would get a 14FF over a D60 anyday but that's not the question. We are comparing a rear 10-bolt to a rear FF D60.
 
Yes, exactly. The D60 is basically as big as the 14Bs/f. Everybody knows that the 14bs/f is beefy next to a 10bolt. And nobody is complaining about the strength of FRONT Dana 60s.

Now whether or not a D60 makes sense over jumping to the 10.5" axle is a valid question, but not really the original topic.
 
Didn't mean to stir so much up with this rear D60 talk :thinking:

I just don't see why you'd go through the effort of putting a rear 60 in (moving perches, etc) when a 14 bolt will always be strong enough and bolts right in. But to each his own, it would hold up better than the 10 bolt, it's just not a big upgrade.
 
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