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Clocking np208

Ok so in thinking about this there's a few options on the driveshaft. I feel like a dummy if I don't go 1410. This is mainly because I have to regear the d60 anyway so I don't feel like putting that wimpy yoke back on.

I could build a square shaft. 1410 on both ends. Maybe $120 worth of material...

Now I'd have to get a 1410 yoke for the 208... $105 more.

I could also put a flange yoke that would fit the 208... $40 or so.

Probably smarter and cheaper to get the flange yoke. Less chance of binding I think.

Down side is I won't have a spare shaft, at least not for a little bit. I'm guessing it would be fairly bomb proof, I've ripped pretty hard on the stock front shaft and no problems.
 
I just saw a pirate thread with HAD saying you'll have to do flanges if itso over 30 degrees with 1410. Hmm. Maybe that's if I went totally flay. K85 clocked his 241 flat...need to look at that.

Sorry, I'm a little late to the conversation. I have been working 12s 1.5 hrs away and it makes for long days with the commute.

The u-joint angles at the pinion yoke and the t-case yoke will be different. If you are road driving this vehicle with 52s up front, with the proper amount of caster and stock rotation Cs you should have the pinion pointing slightly up towards the t-case. I think I had to get 6 degree caster shims to get to proper caster angle. If you are trailering this everywhere and aren't concerned about road manners and correct caster then you can go even higher with degree shims to lessen the angle at the pinion yoke. If you are adventurous you could also cut and rotate your inner Cs to keep correct caster and improve pinion angle at the same time.

The angle at the t-case should pretty much always be worse than the angle at the pinion yoke because your drivetrain is (should be) actually running uphill a couple degrees from your rear t-case output to your motor mounts. If you are going to run the Superflex joint like me, Tom Woods recommends only running 1 and placing at the t-case because this is where you will have the greatest angle for the reason above.

You can definitely go flanged yokes for even more operating angle out of the 1410s as HAD suggests but it does come with added cost.

In the end it's all about finding the balance for your given budget and desired performance.

I opted for the .120 wall 2" OD 1410 single joint long travel HAD shaft with a superflex joint at the t-case. The driveshaft came with two standard 1410 joints so I automatically picked up a spare for the pinion yoke. The shaft was ~$500 shipped. The 1410 superflex joint I got on sale from WFO Concepts (close to you in CA) for like $50-60 shipped. Also, if you are looking at my results and needs, it is important to note that I have a 1.25"drivetrain lift at the motor mounts for my 5.3 to clear the ORD high clearance small block engine crossmember so your t-case joint angle should be less than mine with stock height motor mounts.

If you are cool with a square tube driveshaft then you could use that saved $ to buy the HAD flanged yokes and possibly run standard 1410 joints at both ends or worse case scenario still put a 1410 superflex joint at the t-case.

Point is there is more than one way to get to where you need to be here.

Also, if you are thinking of going doubler in the future you may want to research if the 1410 208 t-case yoke is going to fit a 205 if you go 205 main case. Alternatively, you could also keep your 208 and go 241/208 instead of 241/205. You won't get the benefit of a 4 speed t-case setup like the 241/205 but your double low would now be 7.4:1 instead of 5.44:1.

Honestly, if I could do it over I would have gone 241/205 but I got a good deal on a 203/205 with triple sticks before I learned more about the 241 Ecobox and I am too far along now to change.
 
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Awesome thanks for chiming in!

Before I knew what a 241xwhatever was I ended up getting a smoking deal on a 203 205 combo. Ill likely end up using that for a doubler in the future. Im running 5.38s so ill be pretty low with that combo. For now this 208 will have to do.

I want to say my caster is in the 6-8 degree range. Stock perches.

Good news is the 30 spline 1410 yoke for the 208 also fits the 205. Seems like a good buy being that I can use it later.

These 1410 yokes fit 2.5 id tube so those would more or less fit right into the tcase side of square tube. Theres also a 2 inch id one for the other side.

http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/product/SPI-3-26-437.html

Id love to do sye but that means id have to shell out a bunch more for driveshaft mods instead of just lengthening it. I also have a spare slip yoke shaft. The downside is its just a 1350 two joint so it may not even work in a pinch. I was thinking maybe theres some way I could make it work to limp off a trail.
 
Yeah, I didn't want to go the way I did, but I eventually relented... sye on the t-case, flanged driveshaft... Cry once. Why are you going to mess w/ the 208 at all if you're going to go doubler?
 
Yeah, I didn't want to go the way I did, but I eventually relented... sye on the t-case, flanged driveshaft... Cry once. Why are you going to mess w/ the 208 at all if you're going to go doubler?

I hear ya.

Well basically I don't want to miss this season. I feel like doing the doubler, although I have the cases is going to cost me a bunch of dough. More then the 3 or 4 hundred this will run me. The other reason being I have a great rear driveshaft, just needs to be lengthened.

The 205 needs the 32 spline upgrades along with twin stick work. The 203 also needs 32 spline stuff. I may just end up flipping the cases at some point if I find a decent doubler cheaper then what I can make it go for.
 
Id love to do sye but that means id have to shell out a bunch more for driveshaft mods instead of just lengthening it. I also have a spare slip yoke shaft. The downside is its just a 1350 two joint so it may not even work in a pinch. I was thinking maybe theres some way I could make it work to limp off a trail.

If you are interested in a cheaper SYE option for the 208 you could always go this route. Seems like it is a pretty popular mod on the cheap and haven't heard any horror stories of failure afterwards. You'd still have to go fixed yoke on your current rear shaft but you may be able to keep the shaft the same length. Have to measure to be sure though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG-d13ikmc
 

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