I hope this fits in the COG rules /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif [ QUOTE ] 1) Is this *directly* fab related? 2) Does it go beyond the common or basic? 3) Is it true to say this is not available "off the shelf"? [/ QUOTE ] /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif On my 72, I am removing 14.5 inches from the frame, right behind the cab. This is the spot most trucks I have seen converted to a shortbed are doing it. But I want to do it right, so please help or point me to some info so I dont take my life in my hands /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif I was also needing to know if the "diamond" or "fish mouth" plates are the right way to do it. I also need to know if I plate both sides of the frame rail, or just one side? How thick of plate? 1/4? Thanks you so much for any help you can give!