but,I wanna build some kind of flatbed for my pickup,the question is I dont have a tube bender or the money for someone to make this,but however I have a bunch of steel plus a welder,so could I make a headache rack with 2 bars going straight back to the rear per say 2.5" box steel? this would not be considered a roll bar,but somthing to add to the rerar other than just a flatbed.some thing to hold a set of lights pointed backwards,and maybe my hilift jack on the bar going to the rear of the frame. someone told me since Im building a rock crawler this would be unsafe do to it being box steel.Now there will be a in cab cage made out of D.O.M tube,I just dont have the clams for some crazy design for the rear,but I have a bunch of box tube. what is your all advice? do it? unsafe IF it were to roll? what?