I am going to need to make a custom fuel rail for one of my projects, where is a good place to find the parts that i will need for this? What is the best way to go about making a custom fuel rail? will a stock style fuel pressure regulator sense boost and add more fuel for it?
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Custom Fuel Rail questions
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Don't know what all you have already, but here is all I could think of:
http://www.customefis.com/portefi.html
hopefully much cheaper if you have most of the components already. But I wouldn't bet on it, I think (custom) fuel rails are about the single most expensive component on an EFI build, short of an aftermarket plenum of some sort.
Haven't seen any "build your own" setups, looking at GM's TPI fuel rails, I can see why replicating something like that is expensive, although most seem to just use braided line to join the rails, instead of GM's hard line with o-rings.
What are you working on?
http://www.customefis.com/portefi.html
hopefully much cheaper if you have most of the components already. But I wouldn't bet on it, I think (custom) fuel rails are about the single most expensive component on an EFI build, short of an aftermarket plenum of some sort.
Haven't seen any "build your own" setups, looking at GM's TPI fuel rails, I can see why replicating something like that is expensive, although most seem to just use braided line to join the rails, instead of GM's hard line with o-rings.
What are you working on?
im working on a 4.3 v6, im trying to replace the crappy single injector with 6 spiders off it with normal style injectors, becasue the stock injector can not handle much power and i am adding a turbo to the engine
Thunder
3/4 ton status
Why not just get the whole system for a Syclone/Typhoon. They are a direct bolt on. Probably be cheaper and easier that trying to adapt CFI. Or mabe you can adapt the Syclone fuel rails to your needs. IIRC Syclones were MPFI not CFI like the NAd 4.3
No the stock FPR will not sense boost. You need a boost referenced adjustable FPR.
No the stock FPR will not sense boost. You need a boost referenced adjustable FPR.
I think I've got a 4.3 fuel rail in my garage. Grabbed it from the wrecking yard because I needed the clips that hold the injectors. Have the injectors still as well. (wouldn't even think of using them without testing)
No idea what application this came from, but I'm sure it's a GM part, and the layout of the injectors (each bank is a single injector up front, then closely paired ones in the rear, like the first three or last three cylinders of a SBC) lead me to believe it was a 4.3 piece. Admittedly I have no idea what a 2.8L injector rail looks like, but the more I think about it the more I think that's what this is...IIRC it's just a single rail down the middle with the six injectors in a "V" pattern, which would be too narrow to fit the width of a 4.3/SBC, unless the injectors were located aways back from the cylinder, which seems unlikely.
I've got a 4.3L ECM you can have if you need it. Don't know much about it (whether it even works or not) but looks good, and this is what was said about it when I asked:
"that ECM was used in 1992 S10 S15 2wd pickup trucks with the 2.5 4-banger.
The 647 ECM was also used in 1992 Astro Vans, Safari vans and S10/S15 2wd & T10/T15 4wd trucks with the 4.3 V6s"
I didn't get a case with it, but it will fit in the standard ECM boxes. In actuality it's only half the length of other ECM PCB's, so you could cut the box down to fit the PCB if you wanted to, for space saving or fit it somewhere. Dunno about applicability for boosted apps though.
No idea what application this came from, but I'm sure it's a GM part, and the layout of the injectors (each bank is a single injector up front, then closely paired ones in the rear, like the first three or last three cylinders of a SBC) lead me to believe it was a 4.3 piece. Admittedly I have no idea what a 2.8L injector rail looks like, but the more I think about it the more I think that's what this is...IIRC it's just a single rail down the middle with the six injectors in a "V" pattern, which would be too narrow to fit the width of a 4.3/SBC, unless the injectors were located aways back from the cylinder, which seems unlikely.
I've got a 4.3L ECM you can have if you need it. Don't know much about it (whether it even works or not) but looks good, and this is what was said about it when I asked:
"that ECM was used in 1992 S10 S15 2wd pickup trucks with the 2.5 4-banger.
The 647 ECM was also used in 1992 Astro Vans, Safari vans and S10/S15 2wd & T10/T15 4wd trucks with the 4.3 V6s"
I didn't get a case with it, but it will fit in the standard ECM boxes. In actuality it's only half the length of other ECM PCB's, so you could cut the box down to fit the PCB if you wanted to, for space saving or fit it somewhere. Dunno about applicability for boosted apps though.
Thunder said:
I would like to keep the stock look of the CPI engine and sy/ty intakes are not cheap
Would the stock sy/ty FPR be boost referenced?
dyeager535 said:
Could you get me a picture of that fuel rail?
as for the ECM i am going with mega squirt so i wond need any ECMs for this project but thanks for the offer
i am trying to do this to my intake
that way it looks basicly stock besides a little extra tubing under th hood
I'll try to get a pic tonight!
I bought mine here when I needed some. Do a search on their site for "fuel rail".
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/
KM
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/
KM
I guess I never looked at it closely, since I figured there'd never be any need to.
http://rides.webshots.com/album/558306704dvOoCP?track_pagetag=/page/photo/rides/rides&track_action=/Owner/Shortcuts/Album
As I interpret that thing, it's certainly not a 4.3L rail, since there is a single injector front and rear, on opposite sides. 2.8L? No other idea what it would be. If you can use it, you can have it. I might want one or two of the injector clips as spares though.
http://rides.webshots.com/album/558306704dvOoCP?track_pagetag=/page/photo/rides/rides&track_action=/Owner/Shortcuts/Album
As I interpret that thing, it's certainly not a 4.3L rail, since there is a single injector front and rear, on opposite sides. 2.8L? No other idea what it would be. If you can use it, you can have it. I might want one or two of the injector clips as spares though.
dyeager535 said:I guess I never looked at it closely, since I figured there'd never be any need to.
http://rides.webshots.com/album/558306704dvOoCP?track_pagetag=/page/photo/rides/rides&track_action=/Owner/Shortcuts/Album
As I interpret that thing, it's certainly not a 4.3L rail, since there is a single injector front and rear, on opposite sides. 2.8L? No other idea what it would be. If you can use it, you can have it. I might want one or two of the injector clips as spares though.
thats a weird lookign fuel rail, my 60 v6 does not even look like that, thanks for the offer but i have no use for that style of rail
sled_dog
1 ton status
1979jimmy350 said:
I'd try a stock regulator first. I am certain a Sy/Ty one is boost referenced, but I know on the Mitsus I work on, all their regulators are boost referenced. You can simply apply pressure to them with a hand pump and watch the pressure increase. But Mitsu does sell Turbo cars.
This info should be over on thirdgen.org, or could probably be found by asking there, as long as it wasn't mentioned what vehicle it was going in.
sled_dog said:
yea, the turbo that im using is actually a mitsus turbo its what was stock on the s-10 syclone
