dispute over military hummer vs. my truck

[oneofthefewbmx]

me and my friend are having a discussion over the capability of a humvee vs my truck. my truck consists of an 86 chevy p/u longbed w/ a built 383 roller vortec motor w/ full msd and truck avenger carb. th400 tranny, 208, 14 ff detroit 4.56, d60 lockrite 4.56 crossover steering, 39 in boggers, bds suspension lift w/ ord reverse shackles, hill offroad extended shackles in the front w/ zero rate that moved the axle forward 1.5 inches. relocated rear shocks, and a mile marker hydraulic winch off a humvee (i used to be a humvee mechanic). when we say hmvee we mean the gen 1 hummer w/ the 6.2 diesel. please inform us on why one would be better than the other. pros and cons. thanks alot.

 

[2Dogs]

The truck would be superior in every way except for possibly higher COG.

Edit: ditch the carb and my statement stands

 

[cbbr]

You can beat him in a drag race.

 

[txfiremank5]

I think the hummers are pretty good for a stock form vehicle.. for certain types of uses, but they certainly are no match for a well built rig. Not even close.

 

[camok5]

Well if you dont have a snorkle he would beat you in a under water race.

 

[monster man]

the 3 features that would make me keep a HMMWV over a built truck are the CTIS, low center of gravity, and high center clearance. Otherwise there's just way too many drawbacks.

Easily high-centered, too wide for trails, too heavy, too slow, too low, no lifts, costly to buy AND maintain

 

[redneckdude]

hummers were built to do PRETTY good in ALL terrains without being too extreme, and they do exactly what they were built to do. They have good clearance, low COG, lots of things we all want...but stock tires leave something to be desired, 6.2 in something THAT heavy isn't the best choice...

Your rig would be better overall than a stock hummer...now if one had a big block gas motor, some 40" swampers, lots of comparable things, then it would be a challenge, but for now about the only thing he would have you beat in is under the diff clearance and low COG...

 

[guido666]

Another thing is that the HMMVs aren't all upgraded with all the stuff they say they have. I'm in a Special Operations unit, and our HMMVs suck big time. Open diffs, no winch, tired engines. Because Special Forces get to bend the rules a little, while in Iraq we did have Swampers on there! But then some General somewhere caught wind and got his panties all in a bunch. Now they took away our Swampers.

 

[sapper]

If you mean trails and having fun then the truck wins. However in iraq I had 11 Marines in each hummer with everything they had in packs on the things. Plus a couple hundred pounds of engineer tools, 400-500 lbs of demo, 3 days of food and water plus all the weapons and ammo for each. That would have a trail truck dragging its frame on the deck.

 

[koldsimer]

Funny this thread came up. My Ford buddy believes that an original hummer could beat my truck off road. I try and try to explain to him why it would wouldn't even come close, but he refuses to believe me. Dumbass FURD owner. Your truck would school the hummer easily!

 

[DEMON44]

Saw this while surfing.............


Engine is a ARP built Chevrolet 502 ZZ, 642Hp, 878 NM, 11:1 comp. Autronic fuel injection, roller cam + 44" Boggers.

Humvee1 Humvee2

 

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

Both trucks have their good points and bad points. Depends on what you are talking about. Having spent time in a HMMWV back in my Army days, I can tell you that they can By God do some wheeling..................

 

[DieselDan]

ALL HMMWVs have the Torsen torque sensing differential front and rear. It's a good traction aid differential for what the Army does. Utilizes worm gears, no friction plates. You can't feel it through the steering wheel and does not produce any handling quirks.
Most (99.9%) of all the Army HMMWVs do NOT run CTIS. CTIS is an add-on modification (MWO) that some units can add if they desire. CTIS is regarded as a curse imposed on us in the Ordance Branch (mechanics). See various rants I've made in the past about CTIS. Funny someone mentioned weight capacity. After adding about a 1500 pounds of "HardOx" ballistic armor, troops, spare, 50 cal and ammo, our HHMWVs looked like the were refugees from an apocolypse circle track (down on the bump stops).

 

[sled_dog]

People constantly get in arguments with me telling me H1s are the greatest offroad vehicle EVER. I just and let them go.

 

[TLCOR]

Hey, thats a norwegian H1, it competes in trial and I've seen it several times: Awesome Machine ! (It just got stolen, though.. )

 

[78Suburban]

Saw this while surfing.............
Engine is a ARP built Chevrolet 502 ZZ, 642Hp, 878 NM, 11:1 comp. Autronic fuel injection, roller cam + 44" Boggers.

Humvee1 Humvee2

Very, very nice. I wonder how a hummer drivetrain would hold up to 44" boggers?
As for the arguement, I think your truck wins hands down for most any normal application

 

[BigCountryx]

Uh.....the Hummer on 44's wins But a stock one can't hang with you in most situations.

 

[guido666]

Hey, thats a norwegian H1, it competes in trial and I've seen it several times: Awesome Machine ! (It just got stolen, though.. )

How do you steal something as unique as that? It's not like you could hide it if you actually wanted to use it. You'd have to ship it overseas.

 

[DEMON44]

Its a Norwegian truck. Not from North America. Chop shop= parts long gone

 

[TLCOR]

How do you steal something as unique as that? It's not like you could hide it if you actually wanted to use it. You'd have to ship it overseas.

Good point, the thieves broke through his $50000 alarm system and picked it up from his garage. Im guessing a rich ass mafia boss from Eastern Europe or something, just ordered it.