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Dual shock hoop?

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As you can see here, the bottom of the shock is mounted with the eye perpendicular of the axle and the top is also like this. This setup won't be binding at the mounts when one side of the axle is up and the other is down.

I will be copying this setup once I get started. The pic is from a hot rod Class 3 K5 that was raced in AZ a few years ago. Throughtout my travels, I've noticed the same setup on straight axle rigs in the desert, and you will see this alot on the rearend of the geriatric crawlers around these parts.
 
Interesting. There is a lot to be learned from the desert crowd. Thanks for the info. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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/forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gifi wonder how these ride ,compaerd to the stock shock angle????????? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif

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All depends on the shock valving and for most people, throwing a couple of shocks on and calling it good is all they know when there is no true understanding of what a shock really does, nor of the valving........

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He didn't ask about shock valving, he asked if there was any ride difference with having the shocks directly above the axle instead of behind it like stock. Assuming using the same shock, which would mean the same valving in both seperate shock positions.

[/ QUOTE ] /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifyeah i dont know........nobody said anything about the behavior of the ride yet,or if we would be better off using the furds,and keeping the same angle position on the shocks. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifwhat characteristics would the up and down type deal create?good?bad?waste of money? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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As you can see here, the bottom of the shock is mounted with the eye perpendicular of the axle and the top is also like this. This setup won't be binding at the mounts when one side of the axle is up and the other is down.

I will be copying this setup once I get started. The pic is from a hot rod Class 3 K5 that was raced in AZ a few years ago. Throughtout my travels, I've noticed the same setup on straight axle rigs in the desert, and you will see this alot on the rearend of the geriatric crawlers around these parts.

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Thats EXACTLY what I was thinking on the mounts. Do you have any more pics or know of a company that manufactures dual bottom mounts like that that I can simply weld to my axle tubes?
 
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this is all fine and dandy.but what the hell is there to stop axle wrap???

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Here are My thoughts on the subject at hand. The stock location of the shocks do two things. One is to dampen the ride and the other is to help out with axel wrap. So if One was to use a hoop set up they could lose the dampening effect on the axel wrap. One quick fix to this would be to use a single link much like the old strait axel Toyotas.
 
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Do you have any more pics or know of a company that manufactures dual bottom mounts like that that I can simply weld to my axle tubes?


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Nope. It won't exactly be expensive either. You can if you have the knowledge, or someone who knows a little bit, do the planning and then just buy the tabs or fabricate something that would work. I'd say doing this by yourself, the bottom mounts would cost ya more than the wire and gas to weld it, and the mounts maybe about $10. It's just a matter of fabricating everything right.

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this is all fine and dandy.but what the hell is there to stop axle wrap???

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I concur with what zcar said. Axle wrap up front should not be a huge issue cause 1. you're in 2wd most of the time, and 2. outside of your hammer down on the rocks guys, I doubt there's going to be enough power transmitted to the front to have wrap. Also, you have to remember that usually, the front springs have a higher spring rate because of the engine. And like zcar stated, he is using rear springs up front and no problems so it should all be good.
 
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Do you have any more pics or know of a company that manufactures dual bottom mounts like that that I can simply weld to my axle tubes?


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Nope. It won't exactly be expensive either. You can if you have the knowledge, or someone who knows a little bit, do the planning and then just buy the tabs or fabricate something that would work. I'd say doing this by yourself, the bottom mounts would cost ya more than the wire and gas to weld it, and the mounts maybe about $10. It's just a matter of fabricating everything right.

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this is all fine and dandy.but what the hell is there to stop axle wrap???

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I concur with what zcar said. Axle wrap up front should not be a huge issue cause 1. you're in 2wd most of the time, and 2. outside of your hammer down on the rocks guys, I doubt there's going to be enough power transmitted to the front to have wrap. Also, you have to remember that usually, the front springs have a higher spring rate because of the engine. And like zcar stated, he is using rear springs up front and no problems so it should all be good.

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I think I may just try it when I have some spare time. I have an idea on how to fab up the bottom mounts. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

I third on the axle wrap. I highly doubt it would be a problem. Most of the time I'm in soft ground anyway and if my rear doesn't get much hop with a 4" block and %100 power when in 2wd I doubt the front would do it at all. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
 
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