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Ever Wonder How Many Factories GM Has???

Eh, that's the problem they already have. Making too many crappy cars no one wants.
 
You're right, they actually have both problems - they sell cars at a loss to keep them from piling up at dealers, and they pay big $$ to keep factories running just one shift (same costs, but only 1/3 the cars to spread it out over).

I am a huge GM fan and hope for the best - their turn around looks sort of promising - but they have major structural problems that they don't seem to be addressing quickly enough.
 
Gal at work just bought a brand new G6...gag...for what she paid I'd have expected a whole hell of a lot better quality, design, and features.
 
That is also part of the problem - go ask somebody that works at GM and they will tell you the G6 is the greatest thing since sliced bread - and they will sincerely believe it and be baffled by why they don't sell more of them. I guess they must be comparing it to the absolutely horrible cars they made in the late 70s, 80s, and 90s. They need to loose 50% of their brown nosing, yes-men middle managers - and the ones they keep need to get out more.
 
Speaking of price, I just bought an F150 for what a 250 or 350 should be. By "should be", I do mean what the price actually should be, not that I over payed according to everything else. It's like motorcycles or Jeeps. They cost too darn much for what they are. You can build your own vehicle for a fraction of the price of this garbage they put on the road and it would probably ride better/quieter than most of them. The sound system would definitely be better. Of course, unless you're a much smarter man than I and have all of the machinery required, you still have to use someone elses drive train.
 
Off topic.

Uglytruk, is that Yosemite falls and El Capitan in the background of your avatar?

Durn, your making me miss the only part of California I ever liked - the mountains.
 
So yeah, I did a quick count.

Total: 122

US: 72
Foreign: 50

Closed total (not including future):17
Closed foreign (not including future): 2

Open US: 57
Open foreign: 48

I'm sure the other big 3 are very similar, but I don't like seeing so many foreign factories. Bothers me.
 
GM's been making cars overseas since the 20's. Most of them aren't sold here. Guess I fail to see your point.

Semi related note GM Holden in Australia is the only reason we're starting to see RWD cars with actual nuts from GM here in the USA.
 
GM and ford stopped battling really in 02. Even toyota stopped trying to make any decent fast cars. Its only in the past 3 years that we're starting to see a come back.

I know there are several years that domestically, gm had no RWD cars.

That would be where the caprice and firebird/camaro's ended. I guess I forgot the VEtte.

Toyota stopped shipping in its Supra
Honda... well.., they really only had two , the NSX and S2000...
Mazda... had their Rx7, rx8 kinda blows, looks great, bad economy and power...

Ford.. had its mustang, crown vic, and maurader... which also died...lincolon town car?

Somewhere somehow, someone had decided in the mid 90's that nobody wanted big fast powerful RWD cars. They must have only asked granmas and soccer moms, in the U.S. because everywhere else , its still RWD.
(every imported Mercedes and bmw is RWD or AWD).

So finally, their brining it back.. rwd cars...


At least their bringing some new stuff in, the caddy CTS, but it was a number of years that caddy did not believe in RWD's anymore.

And, btw, my k5 is built in mexico I think. Explains a lot. :haha:
 
All caddys are RWD or AWD now.

Like most companies, GMs biggest growth areas are in Asia these days. I think it is good news if they are building more factories there.

Very few of the GM vehicles sold in the US are build over-seas, a couple saturns may be built in Europe, GTO comes from Australia (oops, I think the GTO got killed). I'm not counting Mexico or Canada as over-seas.

They do build and sell vehicles very similar to US versions with the same (or a different) name over-seas. But those are built over-seas and stay over-seas.
 
I have no complaints about factories being built overseas. I understand the economics (not slave labor economics, I'm referring to excise taxes and shipping fees) and vehicle regulations behind that. It might be the same body, but the internals can be completely different. Why re-tool a factory here for that? What bothers me is the closing of more US based factories before others. Then there's the the good ol' assembly plants in Mexico. Pointless. All well, we could go on and on arguing the pros and cons of foreign investments and in the end we're arguing about money being spent/saved that's not ours anyway.
 
Semi related note GM Holden in Australia is the only reason we're starting to see RWD cars with actual nuts from GM here in the USA.
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Holden has some interesting stuff. I would have preferred that they brought the Monaro to the states as a Monaro, not rebadged as a GTO. It was a fast car with ok (but boring) styling, but you just don't throw that name around. What's next, a minivan called a Corvette?

And yeah, that's a lot of factories :shocked:. Too bad the company has been managed into the ground, though.
 
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