dieselndixie
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I can tell you that when I pulled one hub off, the snap ring was NOT in the groove...it was just sitting on the shaft and slid right off by hand.
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I can tell you that when I pulled one hub off, the snap ring was NOT in the groove...it was just sitting on the shaft and slid right off by hand.
left or right side?
dieselndixie
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not the one we worked on
It has been said on this site that some locking hubs don't require the snap ring at the end of the shaft. I think they were Warn hubs in particular.
Anyway, I have seen them with and without those rings.
Anyway, I have seen them with and without those rings.
dieselndixie
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where should I start to diagnose what went wrong? open the diff, or open the outer hubs and pull the axle shafts?
you can check your axle shafts to see if you busted the u joint by just looking at them. look between the ball joint area of your axle. but you would have to break both sides not to have any power going to the front end. but if their good and your hubs are good then it's in the axle or t case.
Assuming an open front diff, if one axle snapped, the driveshaft would spin the pinion and ring gears but no power to the other axle cause it would be lost at the spider gears.
Jack the front up. Obviously, if you don't see any carnage in plain sight, it's internal to a hub, axle shaft, pinion gear, etc... So start spinning things by hand, see what moves or not. Lock the hubs and spin the tires. Spin the driveshaft (t-case in 2hi). See what happens. Listen for noises.
Jack the front up. Obviously, if you don't see any carnage in plain sight, it's internal to a hub, axle shaft, pinion gear, etc... So start spinning things by hand, see what moves or not. Lock the hubs and spin the tires. Spin the driveshaft (t-case in 2hi). See what happens. Listen for noises.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
its an open front. I will try this things tonight if I get home in time. thanks
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
So I put the truck in 4 Wheel Dr. And lock the hubs into four-wheel-drive. I am able to jack the front tire up and spin it freely while the other is still on the ground I can go to the other front tire jack it up and spin it freely as well.(with the opposite wheel still on the ground) Broken axle shaft?
no , that's an open diff. if u broke an axle shaft u joint you can see it just walking up to the truck. you broke something in the diff like ring or pinion or spider gears. maybe output shaft on transfer case.
CherryK5
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Open diff, locked in 4wd, shouldn't allow anything to move with one tire on the ground.
And you would hear the r&p. And at some point it would catch and stop the wheel from spinning.
Its either a shaft, or spider gears. I doubt he damaged the tcase in the mud. I've run mine in 4lo at 40mph with no rear yoke. Drove it 20 miles like that. Still works fine and im sure it got plenty hot after blowing all the oil out.
mpio13
1/2 ton status
i think 77 jimmy is right, an open diff applies torque to one wheel or the other (the one with least traction while 4wheeling) so i would think even with the hubs locked, the differential would allow one to spin without the other spinning. that the entire purpose of an open diff.
but i could be wrong. sounds like you might hafta open the diff cover up man.
interested to know what this turns out to be, so keep us updated!
but i could be wrong. sounds like you might hafta open the diff cover up man.
interested to know what this turns out to be, so keep us updated!
Open diff will let the airborn tire spin. This is why we hate them...lift a tire, all the power goes to the lifted one.
texas4x4rebel
1/2 ton status
If the drive shaft is not spinning than the tire should not spin even with a open diff.
CherryK5
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dieselndixie
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all I knows is that it dont work no more!!!! 
Someone knows what's I means.
Yes. And I agree.
With the t-case in 4 (H or L doesn't matter) the driveshaft can't turn. Provided nothing is broken in the t-case.
So, t-case in 4 and both hubs locked, one tire off the ground should not spin free.
T-case in 2 or N will allow the (front) d-shaft to spin and one tire off the ground can spin free.
Put your t-case in 2 or N, jack up one side and see if it spins. Watch to see if the d-shaft spins too. If the shaft spins, that side is good. If not, you found the broken side now dig deeper.
This could very well be a broken hub too. Watch to make sure the axle joint spins while you spin the tire.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
Well I ran all the tests and have concluded that I have a broken hub. I removed the hub and looked at it closely and found that the little star ring that pushes the spring is totally mangled and has chewed up the threads. I tried to flatten it and try again but the threads are too bad.
dieselndixie
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Four wheel parts swore these were the hubs I needed. They told me they were just the new design of the ones I had. Is that right.
No. You have external hubs. They gave you an internal hub.
Martin
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