I put one in a friends Caddy we drove home from a car show in Carlisle PA,clicking and clacking all the way to my shop 40 miles south of boston--when I removed the inspection cover,I pried gently on the flexplate with a pry bar to turn the motor over so I could unscrew the bolts to the converter--it fell out before I got the third bolt out! /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif.It was completely separated,just like the one in your picture--I couldnt beleive we made it home with that flexplate!--it didnt sound THAT bad,or we would have towed it home--guess we were very lucky!. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/screwy.gif