I was just stating the type of show I would like to see...
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I have worked with several over the years. The idiots that spouted off how great it was, were just that, idiots. I watched several get fired. The good ones that came out of there eventually regretted the decision of attending. They said the program was fine, just rushed, and you spend way too much money to come away with no tools.
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I don't hate the guy cuz he's successful, prolly a decent guy.. I hate what he builds cuz it's cookie-cutter...
and tho that Chevelle I posted earlier may appear to be just "a Pro Street" with a normal color paintjob, I'd venture to bet there's WAY more craftsmanship and neat stuff in it than that Foose Cuda... cage, suspension, 1000+ hp mill, etc... and Foose has unlimited funding too...
and tho that Chevelle I posted earlier may appear to be just "a Pro Street" with a normal color paintjob, I'd venture to bet there's WAY more craftsmanship and neat stuff in it than that Foose Cuda... cage, suspension, 1000+ hp mill, etc... and Foose has unlimited funding too...
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I understand what you are saying, but NONE of the car shows "teach" you anything. They hit the high spots and leave out the little important details. They are interesting to watch, and occassionally I pick up an idea that might fit what I'm working on, but other than that it's just entertainment.
9 out of 10 kids right out of tech school don't know d*ck.. tho I do know one that had his head on right and was good... they may think they do, but years of real-world experience can't be beat.. school is good for a background theory, heck, i went to auto body tech.. but it's application to real world biz and jobs is not even close to reality most of the time...
I completely agree. I went through Diesel Truck and Automotive. The thing is, I did it at a community college, learned just as much, if not more than the kids I know who went through Wyotech, and it cost me a mere fraction of what it cost them. We also got to buy quality tools deeply discounted when I went through school, they were required like texts books. The Wyotech kids would start with nothing, and then end up buying tools at full price off the truck. I honestly felt bad for those guys.
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When I say Wyotech, I'm just using a well known name.
But, ya gotta pay attention to what they teach to get the basics, then learn it in the real world. I never saw a trade school employee get fired in the dealerships I worked in, as a matter of fact, the dealerships went to the schools to find new line mechanics because they made better employees.
I saw a lot of "mechanics" that bounced from shop to shop get canned, because they THOUGHT they knew it all.
I didn't go to school to get tools, I already had those, I went to learn things that were too slow to pick up in a shop while a guy was trying to make a living. Shop mechanics have to turn the work out, they don't have time to teach.
At least the guys who go to Wyotech are showing that they are motivated to do that...there is no substitute for hands on experience but everybody has to start somewhere.
We don't have any Wyotechs or even a body shop class around here anymore...I sure coulda used it...at least get aquainted with the tools and fundamentals...
Well when I graduated high school, I didn't have dick for tools, and I definitely didn't have any quality tools. Being able to buy Snap On tools at a 60% discount sure helped me get a good start on tools.
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Along with a trade school, a guy that is going to become a "mechanic" has to be born with an ability to be one. It's not something that can be taught. You have to have that ability to jump in and not be afraid to take it apart and then be smart enough to figure out why it doesn't work and then make it work.
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/videos/?video=wheeler-dealers-8-engine-trouble
Not all shows have to be foose-ified...
You guys should really check this show out if you get the chance.
Not all shows have to be foose-ified...
You guys should really check this show out if you get the chance.
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Sorry, but tools don't make a mechanic. I've seen guys that carried all their tools in a bag that were better than the guy with the big Snap On box full of nice shiney tools that he didn't know what they were for.
That's fine and dandy. You still have to have tools to do the job. Oh, and those guys were always borrowing my stuff to do the job. Which is fine until I needed to use it, or they would break something.
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I'd rather have my boss with me broken down 50 miles offshore with a phillips head, gumwrapper, vise grips and a paper clip than most marine mechanics with a boatful of tools... 
school is a fine beginning, but what you learn is usually based on theory and not making money..
school is a fine beginning, but what you learn is usually based on theory and not making money..
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Also, both Wyotech and Lincolntech are trying to teach you 30yrs of experience in 1 year. Its an impossible task, real world shop/field experience is the ONLY EFFICIENT way to learn stuff. Schooling is just a stepping stone. Its helpful to gain a little confidence in yourself, and it will not hurt you, but its not necessary either.
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I'd rather have my boss with me broken down 50 miles offshore with a phillips head, gumwrapper, vise grips and a paper clip than most marine mechanics with a boatful of tools...
school is a fine beginning, but what you learn is usually based on theory and not making money..
I worked with a guy at a Ford dealership in the 70's that carried his tools in every morning in a canvas bag. The shop had all the special tools and his hand tools are all he needed to own. He took them home every night to work on one of his Ford Model T and Model A. Both all original and looked fresh off the assembly line.
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I agree one year is not enough. I went two years. In that two years I got the automatic transmission training I wanted. I took extra classes and every spare minute I was in the auto trans shop. When I graduated, I could take a C-6 apart and put it back together blind folded. But I got what I wanted. I graduated on Thursday night and started working for Ford on Monday doing transmissions. I learned the rest I needed by trading training for training with older mechanics.
OH, it got me a degree that made it much easier to get the soft cushy job I retired from.
Is that show "Muscle Car" still on Spike TV? I don't have cable anymore so I dunno, but that was a great show IMO and they did nice resto-builds, stock, drag cars, all sorts of styles.
I haven't seen that one...
It was part of the PowerBlock
