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Fram oil filters

Ive ran Fram for 12 years now and just last year switched over to mobile 1 filters.
 
bradshawtech said:
I am curious as to what that thing is that sits inside of the filter element that is permanantly fixed in there.

I am guessing that it is an intake muffler so that you cannot hear the secondaries trying to suck in the whole states worth of air when you get on the skinny pedal hard.
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or some kind of burp arrestor, back fire that is:dunno:
 
Wix and Baldwin filters for me. Back in school my uncle showed me the inside of a fram filter and told me that they were just like pennzoil oil, they suck!
 
or some kind of burp arrestor, back fire that is:dunno:
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Looks like a Bifurbulator ring to me.......

Or its a last safety for deep water crossings.......
 
I just talked to my engine builder a day or so ago about what filter and oil to run in my new engine. He said fram was junk and recommended ac delco pf35. I haven't looked for one yet. I was using fram. I think I want to see the inside of the filters now. He said he has cut a number of them open. Has anyone checked out the K&N oil filters? their price is sure high.

My engine guy also recommended straight 30 weight oil for southern California's climate, for my engine (built 402-430 cu. small block for high torque and 5500 rpm max. -waiting to see if we are going with a stroker crank or standard 400).

What brand and weight oil do yo guys prefer? Hope I'm not going too far off topic here.

I think I will save the last one or two fram filters I have for my wore out blazer engine, or cut one open to see the proof.
 
CGT80 said:
I just talked to my engine builder a day or so ago about what filter and oil to run in my new engine. He said fram was junk and recommended ac delco pf35. I haven't looked for one yet. I was using fram. I think I want to see the inside of the filters now. He said he has cut a number of them open. Has anyone checked out the K&N oil filters? their price is sure high.

My engine guy also recommended straight 30 weight oil for southern California's climate, for my engine (built 402-430 cu. small block for high torque and 5500 rpm max. -waiting to see if we are going with a stroker crank or standard 400).

What brand and weight oil do yo guys prefer? Hope I'm not going too far off topic here.

I think I will save the last one or two fram filters I have for my wore out blazer engine, or cut one open to see the proof.
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I've heard the K&N's are good. The 3/8" drive port on the bottom for a ratchet looks like a kick ass idea to me!
 
CGT80 said:
I just talked to my engine builder a day or so ago about what filter and oil to run in my new engine. He said fram was junk and recommended ac delco pf35. I haven't looked for one yet. I was using fram. I think I want to see the inside of the filters now. He said he has cut a number of them open. Has anyone checked out the K&N oil filters? their price is sure high.

My engine guy also recommended straight 30 weight oil for southern California's climate, for my engine (built 402-430 cu. small block for high torque and 5500 rpm max. -waiting to see if we are going with a stroker crank or standard 400).

What brand and weight oil do yo guys prefer? Hope I'm not going too far off topic here.

I think I will save the last one or two fram filters I have for my wore out blazer engine, or cut one open to see the proof.
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I believe the K&N is the same as Mobil One filter, but with the nut on the end...could be helpful in tight spaces.
 
i've been running k&n oil filters for 2+yrs now. i used to use fram's toughgard & other brands also. BEFORE i swapped to k&n brand of filters, with a fresh oil change & new filter, my pressure gauge would stay constant @ 40psi & over time it would gradually go down, finally reaching @ 30psi when it needed the oil changed again. it did this every time regardless of brands.

the one exception i've found is with the k&n filter, my gauge now reads right at 60psi on fresh oil & a k&n filter change, slowly falling off over time to @ 50psi when its time to change the oil again. i first tried the k&n filter just to try one, but to me the increase in oil pressure justifys the k&n's price
 
I saw a factory rep cut several filters up at one parts store I worked at in the 1990's--he took an AC-Delco, a WIX,a Baldwin,Purolator and a Fram out of our stock and gave the store credit for them,and proceeded to cut them open with a pipe cutter ..I was amazed at the cheapness of the Fram,it was by far the worst as far as lack of filter paper & pleats,it had a peice of STRING tied around the paper to hold its shape!--and had a leaf type sheet metal spring for the bypass valve instead of a coil one like the WIX and the others used..

We were told many Fram's dont have an anti-drainback valve,so oil can drain right back into the pan on engines with the oil filter mounted sideways too...since then I've tried to only use WIX or AC-Delco on my trucks,and I liked using the 2 quart version in the WIX brand as it added a quart to the capacity and helped cool the oil more and has twice the filtration area ..

I see Frams on sale at discount stores for 1.99 each,at one local store the ones for sale on "clearance" look like they have sat there 10+ years,the packages are all sun faded..even I walked past them,and I am the cheapest SOB on the planet lately due to lack of income..my brother gave me a Fram oil filter for Xmas about 5 years ago,and its still collecting dust ,sitting on a shelf in my room!...I might use it on someone elses engine,not mine....

I dont like K&N air filters,I read too many horror stories about them letting grit right into the engine--only way to get more flow is to open up the pores in the filter,and I have seen what running with a poor quality air filter (or none at all) does to cylinder bores...no thanks,I'll stick with WIX...I have noticed AC-Delco filters are now mexican made and feel much lighter than they used to be,so I'm thinking they might suck now too..for another 2-3 bucks,I'll use a WIX...Champion makes good filters too,and are who makes many of the "bargain" brands for other companies..Hastings filters are good also,as are Baldwins,but WIX seems to be the best overall..
 
blazin_blazer said:
i've been running k&n oil filters for 2+yrs now. i used to use fram's toughgard & other brands also. BEFORE i swapped to k&n brand of filters, with a fresh oil change & new filter, my pressure gauge would stay constant @ 40psi & over time it would gradually go down, finally reaching @ 30psi when it needed the oil changed again. it did this every time regardless of brands.

the one exception i've found is with the k&n filter, my gauge now reads right at 60psi on fresh oil & a k&n filter change, slowly falling off over time to @ 50psi when its time to change the oil again. i first tried the k&n filter just to try one, but to me the increase in oil pressure justifys the k&n's price
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You know, thats actually a little scary. If I remember right, the oil comes straight out of the pump into the filter.

If you were measuring the pressure at that point, I would be worried that the filter is blocking a lot of the flow.
But, since most engines measure after the filter, I gotta wonder why there is more pressure.

If the filter is allowing that much more flow than others, is it actually filtering all that well?

The only way I know of to increase flow through a filter is to increase surface area or have a more open media that does not filter the smaller particles.

Since the filters are not that much bigger, I gotta conclude that they are letting the small stuff pass.

There is a school of thought that under a certain size, particles are not harmful because they are too small to get pressed between the bearings and just pass on through without doing any damage.

Its not a school I graduated from........

Thats why I like the idea of bypass filters.
You have two filters.
One really fine filter takes out everything, but cannot handle high flow.
The other one is a standard filter.

When the engine is idling, most of the oil goes through the fine filter.
When the flow gets too much, the excess goes through the regular filter while the fine filter continues to take out what it can.
 
not to drag this off topic, well ok, yeah, i am, but every time I see you post now with the new sig Fordum, i think of the movie "Men in Black" :haha: they had it on TNT last night.... :D


oh, and back on topic... here's the infamous "Bobistheoilguy" filter article...

hmmm, can't find that one anymore.... here's one i did find tho...

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
 
ryoken said:
not to drag this off topic, well ok, yeah, i am, but every time I see you post now with the new sig Fordum, i think of the movie "Men in Black" :haha: they had it on TNT last night.... :D


oh, and back on topic... here's the infamous "Bobistheoilguy" filter article...

hmmm, can't find that one anymore.... here's one i did find tho...

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
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Damn, maybe I better change it.......They had to sign all kinds of top secret papers before we could let them model him after me.

We figured it was OK, since I'm much better looking and don't have anywhere near as dark a tan......

Plus in most ways, I'm closer to K than J. We figured that would help too....
 
I've actually met Will.... a very very cool guy..... he hung out at my marina once for a few hrs.... very down to earth, genuine kinda person... not at all what i expected from a hollywood type with the kinda coin he has...
 
If you own a Dodge Cummins truck that is still under warranty, and something goes wrong with the engine internally, and you have a Fram oil filter on it, then your warranty is void.


If you want a really good filter, buy one with a nanofiber element. The Fleetguard Stratopore, Donoldson Endurance, and the complete line of filters from Amsoil. Nanofiber deteriorates at half the speed, and holds twice as much "material" as a cellulose element filter.
 
Champion makes Mobil One and K&N...they use a synthetic filter instead of paper and have a larger filter surface area.
They claim the synthetic filter with larger surface area filters better AND allows more flow.
 
Yea, No shocker to hear another person isnt happy with FRAM.
I sure do love the grippy part, but I love my motor more.

I run AC-Delco now.
 
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