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Frankenburb the 1978? 1984? Suburban

AbramJ

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Well I am finally getting around to starting this build log. I have a couple other threads about the truck on the forums already ( Did I make a mistake? and List of needed parts for my build and Help finding 2wd to 4wd swap/conversion threads) which give some background on how I ended up with the truck. Basically it is a 3/4 ton 4x4 frame and running gear from a 1984 Suburban with a body from a 2wd 1978 Suburban. I got it with no front doors or front clip. No engine either, but it still had the TH400 and NP208.

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At one point in time a previous owner painted over the middle strip between the body moldings, but the rest of the paint looks original. Only rust I've found are some small holes immediately behind the rear wheels in the quarter panels, some at the bottom of the spare tire location and on the front floor boards when I pulled up the carpet and jute padding. The floor looks solid from underneath, so hopefully the rust didn't go all the way through. Looks like the carpet and padding got really wet and the moisture got trapped and started the rust. I need to vacuum out the interior and strip the paint off of the floor boards.


I pulled the whole interior out and trashed the carpet and padding. The headliner was still in the truck, but the material was separating from the board. I removed the material and scraped the leftover junk off of the boards. I plan on re-using them so I was being as careful as possible. This might be a silly question, but how do you know the board is clean enough to attach new material? Also what is the best way to go about doing that? The 3M automotive spray adhesive? I'll most likely be replacing the headliner material with more of what was up there, the perforated vinyl.

I bought a set of the original steel wheels from a junkyard. Just pressure washed them for now, and that already made them look much better. Will probably clean them again, but this time scrub them down as well, then determine if they need to be repainted. The tires on them are pretty much junk (one even looks like an original spare from the 70's), but that's ok for now. I'll keep both sets of wheels for the time being.

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It is going to be a resto-mod, looking kind of stock, but with lots of goodies. Plans are to completely repaint the truck in and out to match the fender and doors I've been working on, adding the cab marker lights (measured and placed on to see if I really wanted them), roof rack and rear air deflector, replace the interior with a blue one to resemble a 1975-76 truck (that's the doors and parts I have the most of), rebuild the NP208, TH400, and both axles, and the biggest part of the project, install a 5.9L 12V Cummins.

Painted fender (the middle passenger doors came off and are for sale if anyone is interested http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/5903780666.html)

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Passenger interior removed

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Rust in floorboards with padding stuck on

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Cab marker lights

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I am currently looking at my gauge cluster build, I'd like to keep it stock looking. I'd like to get this tach/fuel gauge if they still make it: http://www.gmsports.com/content/new-tachometer-1973-1988-chevy-and-gmc-trucks, normal speedometer, clock, voltmeter, oil pressure, and coolant. What I want to know is if it is possible to modify the printed circuit/harness to change what dash lights I'll get at the bottom of the speedometer (I'd like the brake light and 4wd light). Will this work with a diesel engine? I'd also like to add temperature gauges for the Transmission and Transfercase and have been wondering if it is possible to use stock gauges in their own little bezel, either mounted under the dash area, or I'd build an A pillar pod to hold them. Is it possible? Where do people put the temperature sensor in their Transmission and Transfercase?

Thoughts, comments, and suggestions are welcomed.

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I've heard arguments on both sides of this debate so the transmission rebuild is very low on the list. The same friend who lead me to this truck is a Cummins guy and he has another friend who builds them. He says there's a good chance i could get an engine and transmission from him. Until i have the money saved up I'll work on the rest of the truck


If your serious about the 5.9 ditch the 400.
 
Cleaned and painted the gauge cluster. I painted it chrome for now. I've heard a very glossy white helps reflect the light better so I'm going to paint it that next. The chrome is acting as the base color.

I need to fix a crack in one of the mounting tabs and then I'll reinforce them all with some epoxy. I did this on the cluster in my other truck and I never had to worry about it breaking anymore.

The lights will all be LED, cool white for the gauges and the appropriate colors for the indicators

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Just now my 4 year old daughter, as we were getting her in my wife's car, said "That's going to be a pretty cool truck daddy" I said oh yeah? And she replied "Yeah, with those orange lights on top, that's what makes it cool" so it looks like the cab marker lights are definitely staying now.
 
Chrome made a huge difference in mine. I did my tail lights as well. Looks real nice. I just used standard bulbs and I have to turn them down at night.
 
Just now my 4 year old daughter, as we were getting her in my wife's car, said "That's going to be a pretty cool truck daddy" I said oh yeah? And she replied "Yeah, with those orange lights on top, that's what makes it cool" so it looks like the cab marker lights are definitely staying now.

Those do it make it cool.
 
I wanted to see what it would look like with the temp gauges on the A pillar, so i rigged them up. I like how it looks. I'll have to cut some of the excess face off and figure out how to wire them to work. Anyone know if it's possible to use these out of the gauge cluster on their own?

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Got a little more work in before all my Christmas events start. Painted the gauge cluster and retainer white gloss, it was blinding me in the sun, so it should definitely help the brightness in the finished cluster. No pictures of that right now.

I also took my grinder with a stripping disk on it to the drivers and passenger front floor boards. Got to a point and ran out of disk and realized it was my last one, doh. So I'll have to grab some next week. So what's everyone's recommendations on covering/preventing more rust? There will be carpet in the truck again, so I'd like to put heat and sound insulation in too.

A rust converter and primer? Just spray on some Ryoken green?

Drivers side (not done)
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Passenger side, pretty much done
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Close up of passenger side
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Are you keeping it be blue/white two tone of that front fender? Please say yes as that's one of my favorite color schemes!
 
OK, like I said before I got the white painted on/in the instrument cluster housing and retainer. I also painted the front of the retainer black.

In the garage:

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In direct sunlight:
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Then for fun I threw in some gauges and turned on my work and wife's cell phone lights. It looks nice already, I bet it'll look even better once it's all put together and the light is inside the housing instead of shining through a hole.

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I'd like to start stripping the paint off the body. I've been using my angle grinder with a stripping wheel, but it takes too long. Someone else on here stripped his paint and seemed to be moving faster (Mitch on his '77 crew cab), but I couldn't find what he said he used in his thread. Sadly he doesn't get on the forums any more and I don't know how else to contact him. I'll keep searching through his thread.
 
Looks good! :thumb:

Mitch is on FB quite I bit...maybe you don't like Facebook? :dunno:

Can`t say I blame you if you don't use it! Lol
 
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