Well, 55will renegged. After 6 months of waiting, he can't finish my bumper project. So, I'm obviously left with a number of options, but at the cost of bumpers, I'm seriously considering builidng my own. I'm far from an expert welder, but with practice I'm sure I can weld up a set of bumpers. For the longest time I've been meaning to buy myself a MIG welder, and if I choose to take this project on, I'll be the only one to blame if they take forever and I don't deliver them to myself in time. I am basically just rambling here. Those of you that have built your own bumpers, pics would be helpful. I'm thinking that the rear will be pretty straight forward. A plate on each side to hook up to the frame, some square tube or channel, and a few beads and it should be good to go. The front is definitely going to be more involved, the biggest issue in my mind is the winch. Being a 12,000 lb. winch it definitely has the capability to destroy the bumper if it's not strong enough. That said, I'm open to suggestions. I need to get this crap done already. I'm tired of waiting for someone else to build them for me, and I'm so fed up that I want to build them myself.