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Frustation like no otherAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

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if anything right now just cut in down the middle and pry it open to get at that nut better...then go from there..

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im on my way. I will be back in hopefully 20 minutes to update the news..
 
I tried grinding the cage off with the dremel. f, what a joke that was. It wouldn't even cut, every time it moved, the disc broke. I went through 6 discs. AHHH! tomorrow I will pick up more 4.5" cut off wheels for the real grinder, and see if I can get the cage cut off without to much damage to the floor.
 
They have those larger disks for the dremmel ...try those..IIRC they are like the size of a silver doller..
 
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Will the weld hold though? it's all rusty...

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And? Your welder won't burn through rust? That's strange.
 
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i am not gonna tell you dremel's suck cause they kickass for lots of jobs! but! they do not have the torque for cutting anything very thick. it may cut it but you will shorten the life of the tool. a 4" grinder would be more suited to the job you are doing.
 
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this is the little cage im talking about. it goes over top of the nut. I guess its spot welding to the channel underneath the body.

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A large pry-bar should take that cage off for you in no time. If you get any cut off disks why not just cut the nut/bolt in half across the top? The nut should split away and the bolt should fall out. You need to replace it anywayws right. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif I've found that in most cases a 4" or 4.5" angle grinder with a cut off wheel works WAY better than a sawzall. /forums/images/graemlins/grind.gif Grind away Steve!!!
 
Can you access the bolt head to cut it off with the grinder or torch? If so cut the bolt head off and beat the bolt up through the hole you cut in the floor. If the bolt wont budge through the rubber mount jack up the body till you can access it and cut it off then. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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Will the weld hold though? it's all rusty...

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And? Your welder won't burn through rust? That's strange.

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I dont know if that was a smart ass comment or not. But if the area is rusty, then penetration is going to suck. And if penetratio sucks, then it probably won't hold the nut good enough.

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i am not gonna tell you dremel's suck cause they kickass for lots of jobs!

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Yeah! Dremels work better for little jobs.


I dont know if I am seeing this wrong, or maybe i'm just not experienced enough. But in the picture the cage is a pull piece of metal, except the corners where there is a opening from the bend. unless I get the prybar into that small opening, or get it underneath the lip where it is spot welded, I dont think it would come off /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Can you access the bolt head to cut it off with the grinder or torch? If so cut the bolt head off and beat the bolt up through the hole you cut in the floor. If the bolt wont budge through the rubber mount jack up the body till you can access it and cut it off then. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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thats what I was planning on doing. I was going to melt the rubber so I can push the metal cup up, so I can cut the head off the bolt. If I tried to cut the head off right now, I'd just be hitting the contour in the metal cup.
So thats why I wanted the rubber out.
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this is the little cage im talking about. it goes over top of the nut. I guess its spot welding to the channel underneath the body.

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A large pry-bar should take that cage off for you in no time. If you get any cut off disks why not just cut the nut/bolt in half across the top? The nut should split away and the bolt should fall out. You need to replace it anywayws right. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif I've found that in most cases a 4" or 4.5" angle grinder with a cut off wheel works WAY better than a sawzall. /forums/images/graemlins/grind.gif Grind away Steve!!!

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I will try that if I can pry the cage off. I have to get cut off wheels, so then I will try it.
 
Buy your self a cutting torch! Aside from that I would get in there with any thing that will fit and destroy that nut, bolt cage and whatever else gets in the way. When you put it back together, clean up the area and weld in a new weld nut.
 
I'm working on buying a oxy/actelyne welder with a cutting torch attachment. Money is preventing me /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
 
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Will the weld hold though? it's all rusty...

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And? Your welder won't burn through rust? That's strange.

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I dont know if that was a smart ass comment or not. But if the area is rusty, then penetration is going to suck. And if penetratio sucks, then it probably won't hold the nut good enough.

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Yes it will. You're not trying to build a skyscraper, simply hold it from moving. A tack weld in each corner, through the rust or not, will be fine. Not every weld you lay down needs to look like a text book, simply do the job.

It's not a smartass comment Steve, if I started doing that, you'd never understand. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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That will be my last resort to weld it. I dont want to weld it, and have missed the nut so it wont work.
 
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there is way to much rust in there to weld from the top
I drilled up from the bottom and tacked the nut on the clean metal from the drilling

that is a messy tough job and you are working with the most basic of tools
good luck with it
very common problem spot on chevs
 
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there is way to much rust in there to weld from the top


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I knew I wasn't crazy.

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I drilled up from the bottom and tacked the nut on the clean metal from the drilling


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Okay I may try that too.

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good luck with it

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Turn your welder up as high as it will go and start goin at the cage thing. The excessive heat will melt the cage away so you can get to whats under it. It'll be messy and dirty and hot as $hit, but it'll work. It's faster and easier than any other method you have available to you. Melt it all away, get a screwdriver or chisel to scrape and pry all the slag and crap outta there to see whats there, then do it again if needed. With nothing but a welder, a hammer/chisel, and appropriate socket/wrench, I could get that out in 10 minutes.
 

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