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Fuel injection or lockers....serious question.

fitech you can get parts at local parts store for them

Oxygen sensor: 2001-2004 VW Beetle Upstream CTS: Chevrolet 1985-2007 TPS: Chevrolet Camaro 1991-1995 IAC: Chevrolet Camaro 1995-1997 Fuel Pressure Regulator: 1998-2003 VW Beetle .
 
Fuel injection. All the way. Then add one locker of your choice. Keep the limited slip in your other axle until you are ready to finish the upgrade.

Personally, I've had no problem daily driving my Detroit on ice or snow. So I wouldn't hesitate to use one. But I understand that some folks don't like it.
 
Fuel injection. All the way. Then add one locker of your choice. Keep the limited slip in your other axle until you are ready to finish the upgrade.

Personally, I've had no problem daily driving my Detroit on ice or snow. So I wouldn't hesitate to use one. But I understand that some folks don't like it.
I didn't drive a Detroit in ice and snow but I drove a lunch box locker, lock rite, and I believe they are the same behaviour.
I didn't feel it was bad, but I also didn't daily drive it in snow just a couple of trips up to the snow so I can see wanting something more gentle for driving in those conditions
 
I used to think running a Detriot in the rear wasn't a big deal until I installed the ARB. Then I realized I was just used to the way the Detroit behaved. I like having the rear selectable locker.
 
I have daily driven a lunchbox locker in a samurai, mud tires, no weight, lockers, soft suspension, manual transmission. Worst possible situation for icy roads. It takes a different driving approach, you simply cannot drive it like an open diff. If you do you will crash.

I have also driven a blazer on mud tires with a Detroit. Same deal. Much lighter on the throttle, much more finesse needed than an open diff.

There is no doubt it's much easier to drive an open diff on ice. Given the choice I would absolutely buy a selectable locker. But also given the choice I would run a lunchbox locker vs a factory limited slip or aftermarket for that matter.

I still mantain a front locker will help substantially more off road than a rear locker.

In my experience with a quadrajet specifically I needed a locker to get into a situation where it died. Open diffs would just not let me get far enough. But my quadrajet was tuned in nice.

A locker will allow you to get into situations where fuel injection will be needed. Do which to do first?

I'm a traction kind of guy. You can't go anywhere without traction, with a locker you double your traction.

With fuel injection you certainly have some increase in ability and better overall driveability, but it's not really going to allow you to go additional places off road.

Now that is speaking specifically of off road. If this is a fire road truck, that will rarely see harder obstacles why lockers at all? Limited slips both ends ( awesome on ice in 4wd) and a good winch.

I used to be a recommend lockers every time all the time. But limited slips do a decent job with all tires contacting the ground.
 
If you don't "need" either part. Then I would put the money into getting the best of one part. I would get lockers first and I would get some ARB's if I wanted a selectable. Based on everything you've said about what your building, how much off camber stuff are you really gonna be doing in that truck that will out drive a good setup carb? I personally wouldn't put anything from OX on my rig. I don't think they've fixed thier past customer service issues and I was super set on getting OX u-joints at the start.

The only downside to the FitTech is the fuel pump it comes with. (the FitTech cool can upgrade thing fixes the issues, I cant remember what its called) HotRod did a EFI shootout and recommends the best pump set up in the article which is what I was going to do before I found a better propane tank for my rig.
 
If you don't "need" either part. Then I would put the money into getting the best of one part. I would get lockers first and I would get some ARB's if I wanted a selectable. Based on everything you've said about what your building, how much off camber stuff are you really gonna be doing in that truck that will out drive a good setup carb? I personally wouldn't put anything from OX on my rig. I don't think they've fixed thier past customer service issues and I was super set on getting OX u-joints at the start.

The only downside to the FitTech is the fuel pump it comes with. (the FitTech cool can upgrade thing fixes the issues, I cant remember what its called) HotRod did a EFI shootout and recommends the best pump set up in the article which is what I was going to do before I found a better propane tank for my rig.


I have not heard anything but great reviews on the OX locker. Next down on my list would be a full e-locker. ARB would be fourth or fifth on that list for various reasons. Personal experience with my last one here In Montana was not great. Air operated anything in sub zero temps is going to be bad. My airline froze and snapped. Replaced with lines that were not supposed to freeze. They froze....solid. One trickle of water in your system and it's done. I hated it. I won't own another air operated anything.

Three local friends with OX lockers, manual cable operation and they work flawlessly. Never an issue since install but I guess mileage may vary.
 
I went with a rear Truetrac in my truck due to previous experience with a detroit locker in a manual trans truck. Not road friendly at all in ice/snow. Plus my wife occasionally drives my truck and she would wreck it for sure with a detroit in the winter.

I think if it was my money, I'd do the lockers first and save up for the Injection.
 
FiTech, get the upmodel one though. Buy all the spare parts you need for it, they all fit in a small container. It is actually better than TBI, I was a little bit skeptical until I put one on a Cadillac 500. I carry all the spare parts for a TBI in my mud truck and it takes up a lunchbox for it all.

I had a lot of automatic lockers (mostly LockRight and NoSlip) in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Was fine in the rear, really irritating in the front.
 
Just an aside to this as I had to check. But most of the Icelandic guys use ARBs. I e mailed a guy I've talked to a couple times and he got back to me. They use ARBs successfully in well below zero temps. He did mention they do not use the stock airline that comes with the ARB and they take considerable time making sure the air line is out of the way of everything.

Not really arguing just pointing it out for future readers of this thread
 
FiTech
Rear Ox locker
Front Spartan or Aussie/ Torq locker

Could probably work that all into the budget.
 
I'm selling one of my Dodge Cummins trucks, a 2000 24 valve automatic truck... so I am hoping to make out a little better than the 3k margin but I promised my girlfriend I would do a a few things around here before spending more money on the truck. She figured out what I was planning. I've got too many dang diesel trucks around here. I just don't drive or use them. The one for sale is lifted 6" and I did a ton of work on it for the guy that owned it. He ran into some money trouble and I bought the truck from him. Sometimes I just need to shut up and leave things alone. So I got a bunch of money tied up in a truck that I drive three or four times a season. So I'm going to clean it up, straighten up a few little things and sell it. In Montana the truck might as well be gold. Third gen extended cab auto trucks sell in a matter of days.
 
I was thinking I would trade it for a really nice crew cab but I think the cash would go farther to complete my project. Funny thing is the truck is over in Washington right now, I let a friend borrow it to pull a travel trailer and he hasn't brought it back yet. It's only been a couple months...LMAO
 
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