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Fusable link question

woodchk502

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So I recently had a short in the front of my '71 Jimmy taking out the headlight harness and alternator to batt wires and a few others that were too close and Im in the middle of rewiring it. Apperently it had no fusable link between the alternator and the little power block on the passenger side fender.

I would like to put one in but Im not sure what size (30amp?) and the best location any suggestions?

any style better than another?
 
It would probably be easier to add a fuse than a link if you are adding one rather then replacing an existing one.
If you are going to fuse the output of the alternator, I would just get a fuse about 10% larger than the max output of the alt.
Being careful not to exceed the rating of the wire its self.
The current rating of the wire is the ultimate decider of fuse size, since preventing it from catching fire is the goal.

If you are going to fuse anything else, just calculate the maximum load it should ever draw, and add about 10%, then compare that number to the rating of the wire size.
 
It would probably be easier to add a fuse than a link if you are adding one rather then replacing an existing one......
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My bad, that is what I meant.

add a fuse to a prevent this from happening again.
 
Nothing wrong with a link, they act like a fuse, but a fuse is more accurate, and easier to replace and spot when it blows.
Most of the time if you go in to get a link, they don't list them by current.

And you can get fuses now in the hundreds if not thousands of amps rated for automotive use.

If you think this is going to be a reoccurring problem, you might want to look into a circuit breaker............:D
 
I blew one on my CUCV so put in a 40 or 50 amp maxifuse.

Right afterwards I heard folks talking about using circuit breakers like big rigs use. Should have done that.
 
Nothing wrong with a link, they act like a fuse, but a fuse is more accurate, and easier to replace and spot when it blows.
Most of the time if you go in to get a link, they don't list them by current.

And you can get fuses now in the hundreds if not thousands of amps rated for automotive use.

If you think this is going to be a reoccurring problem, you might want to look into a circuit breaker............:D


I sure as h*ll hope this isnt a reoccuring problem:haha:.

But to be clear I need a fuse rated for max output of the alt.?
If it has a 10ga wire isnt the max rating for that wire 30amps?

Not second guessing ya Im just not sure about automotive wiring. :dunno:
 
Well, hopefully the wire would be sized to the max load it will see also. Normal rating for 10ga is 30amps.
If the wire insulation is rated high, it might go up to 40 amps. I would not run 40 amps through it though.
Of course an alternator might never see full load under normal circumstances.
If the battery is fully charged, all it needs it to replace the amount of charge used during cranking.
Plus, the operating load of the vehicle.
But, the wire really should be sized for the maximum load it can see.


Here is a link to a chart that shows what can be done. I would not go by this chart unless I went by the 25' rating.
And then I would be skeptical.
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/12-volt-wire-gauge-amps.htm

This link is a little better. It comes from the problem from the opposite direction.

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/12-volt-wiring-gauge-chart.htm.

There are two considerations with wire size. You can keep loading the amps on until it melts. That would be the actual limit of its capacity.
The practical limit is the insulation. There are different temperature ratings for insulation, so you can find different current ratings for different temp insulations.

For our purposes, we do not want to even approach these limits. When you are specing out a job that has thousands of feet of wire, and you are trying to win a bid, you use the minimum ratings.
They are safe, and are cost effective.
But, when you are working on your own equipment, looking for reliability, you don't try to save 10 cents. You go to the higher rated wire.

The other side of the situation, is voltage drop.
We are not working with hundreds of volts here. Every volt counts.
For instance, the difference between a functioning HEI and a non-functioning one, is only about 3 volts.
From 12 to 9.

The smaller the wire, the more voltage it loses per foot per amp.
Conversely, the bigger the wire, the closer to full voltage you get.

Ever try to jump off a vehicle with small jumper cables? It doesn't work. They lose too much voltage to crank it.
Instead, you have to leave them hooked up for a while with the other car running until it charges the dead battery enough for it to help.

I have a set of jumper cables that are about 3/0. Its pretty much the same as actually replacing the dead battery with the good one.

So, when in doubt, go up one size.

The best way, is to have heavy enough wire so that your fuse protects the equipment.
Then you can be sure the fuse also protects the wire.

For instance, making up numbers, for a 30 amp alt, use wire rated to 40 amps and a 30 amp circuit breaker or fuse.

But, when in doubt, protect the wire. Its what will catch the truck on fire.
 
WOW. thanks for the link. Tons of info there, hopefully I can put it to good use.

I did find 2 small glass fuses inline and neither were blown. Ill have to trace them down to see what they go to, and what amperage they are. At a quick glance on the one I broke taking apart Im guessing small <15A.

Thanks again, jim
 
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