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FYI ORD zero rate/weld brace NOT NJ LEGAL

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ok so just got back from getting my new vin on the truck...
boy what a total BS deal that is..

anyway they are the same guys that will inspect the high rise vehicles..
when i first pulled in.. he told me the front blocks have to go and if DOT sees that they will tow me on the spot...
i explained they are not blocks.. they are bolted to the leaf pack and he said they must go.. ok fine no biggie...
but just wanted to drop this out there for other NJ peeps....
 
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sounds to me like he just didnt believe you, he was just being a D!CK. you should be fine:dunno:
 
shady said:
sounds to me like he just didnt believe you, he was just being a D!CK. you should be fine:dunno:
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really i should be fine? he will be the guy inspecting it when i get my new title... so off they will come.. unless ORD can provide me with something that they are nj legal.. going to email them now...:whistle:
 
god I hate this state..... making sh*t up as they go.... "oh, I'm smart, blocks up front are bad."

thats why i haven't been to a state inspection in 25 yrs... power trippy state workers failing ya for bizarre stuff that they passed the prior yrs... i'd rather inject the local gas station economy with $85.....

what tells you where this country is headed is the fact that, a state "safety" inspection could care less about safety and only checks emmisions... great, so when dipsh*t is in a major crash because her brake lights don't work, at least the car wasn't smoking! :rolleyes:
 
And I betcha you could ask three inspectors and get four opinions. This is where such inspections break down, as the state is relying on individual discretion and clue level.

While y'all complain about CA smog regulation -- actually, so do I :) -- at least we can build our trucks the way we want. Tossup.

-- A
 
Or you could just move to georgia and drive whatever the hell you want to drive and no one gives a damn. Only requirements are that if its under 25 years old it has to pass a simple "just pay me $20" emissions test.
 
I have a feeling that FRONT BLOCKS ARE NOT LEGAL IN NJ and you're being lumped in with that crowd.

Get a copy of the code section they "violate" and we can work with you from there.

If I had a lot of time in a situation like that I'd put an overload leaf in the pack and take it back and see what he says. Then put in 2 shorter leaves and see what he says. Maybe even weld in a taller spring perch. Then try to figure out how that's different. Unfortunately with guys like that it will likely just piss him off and make him fail you for some other equally stupid "infraction".

You really need a written copy of the code section to do anything with this and it's probably a good idea to be familiar with that body of code anyway if they really will tow a vehicle on the spot for something like that. Then at least you have some defense. Who knows what the next guy with a brother-in-law in the towing business will think is a problem?

In reality you may be best off arming yourself with the code knowledge and taking them off the truck to get it inspected, at least if it HAS to be done by this guy. There's a good chance that presenting him with solid proof that they're not blocks and are legal will piss him off also. One small jar of vaseline and a bruised sense of right and wrong may be better than a big jar of vaseline and everyone knowing you were right...

I would have a very hard time swallowing this advice myself.
 
If you cut down an overload and stuck it on the pack they would not know the difference. I bet if you painted it they would not know the difference. Carry the code in glove box no officer is going to know the difference or look for that matter
 
...what do you expect in a state where it is illegal to pump your own gas...:dunno::whistle:
 
Stephen said:
Get a copy of the code section they "violate" and we can work with you from there.
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so are you saying send it through and let them fail it?
and ask for the failed code section in writing... and come back to you guys?
i sent you guys an email as i didnt realize yall were gonna post here...



and to everyone else.. you are right i should move to your town.. and all my relatives.. and we can overcrowd your area!!!!! :haha:

i know nj laws suck.. i get that.. but i dont agree with so much..


i see trucks all over this place bigger than mine with the single inspection sticker which means they didnt go through the high rise inspection.. im only doing this cuz my wife wants it 100% legal.. lets say i plow into someone with a "paid" inspection sticker... ok my defense is where when im being sued for billions??????
 
Shove the North East states out in the Atlantic… and of course California out in the Pacific. This would a much better country. Seriously, what more do you need than the South and Texas?
 
RootBreaker said:
so are you saying send it through and let them fail it?
and ask for the failed code section in writing... and come back to you guys?
i sent you guys an email as i didnt realize yall were gonna post here...
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He is saying that:
You should be able to get the code section in writing from them that shows where the zero rate is not legal without having them ever even look at the vehicle. It probably says blocks are not legal in the front which is understandable but since a zero rate is bolted to the spring pack it's different. However, they just can't see it that way because of ignorance.

In Colorado with enough digging you can get the vehicle requirements to make sure you meet those requirements before ever seeing anyone in person.

It is BS because you could have a spring pack that is 5" thick with all springs and be fine, but you having a 3" thick pack with a 1" zero rate bolted to it makes it illegal? Seems like the same damn thing to me?
 
Seems like a pointless argument to me unless you're going to disassemble the truck in front of the inspector to prove the center pin goes through the block.
 
print out a picture of the zero rate off ord's website. Then eat it, take the block off, and go in for the inspection. Reinstall it later. Get better proof (and possibly a different location) for the next time you have inspections.
 
K85 Octane said:
print out a picture of the zero rate off ord's website. Then eat it, take the block off, and go in for the inspection. Reinstall it later. Get better proof (and possibly a different location) for the next time you have inspections.
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inspection is at only 2 locations... down here south and up north
 
Ive been through NJ stability tests a half dozen times.

If they say you fail, you fail.
Period.
No code, tech info, or hand written note from a structural engineer is gonna change that dicks mind.

My advice would be to remove the zero rates and go for inspection. Where he will find some other unknown issue to fail you for.
 
if your going through the trouble to pull 'em out just put factory OL's in, the short ones are 1" thick so it'll be the same thing but legal. unless you flex it out alot you shouldnt even notice
 
What I have a hard time with is the fact that a lot of Mack, Sterling and Freightliner trucks have actual lift blocks on the steer axle from the OEM. I know from replacing sheared center pins that they are just blocks. We know why the manufacturers get away with this, but come on, how about some consistency!!!
 
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