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FYI:ORD's greasable bolts are worthless!

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IF YOU DON'T GREASE & ROTATE THEM:doah:Just thought I'd post up a simple reminder to go out and give them bolts a shot or two. Here is how I got my reminder this afternoon. Looks like I needed ORD's heavy duty shackles anyways.

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Also looks like you needed a nut on the end of the bolt!
 
I've griped about this before. Just because grease goes through somewhere doesn't mean that grease covers everywhere. Even if you grease them all the time, there will be places that don't get grease. This is probably fine in the desert and as you use the truck the grease MAY spread out. If you're in the rust belt, those spots will rust and eventually you have the same bolt-fused-to-sleeve problem as the regular bolts. Modus Operandi is to cut the bolts out with a cut-off wheel whenever you need to get the springs out.

My latest approach is anti-sieze. Only time will tell if it's better.
 
I've made it a point to periodically spin the bolt, before I regrease em... to avoid the "just one track of grease" scenario.. we'll see how that works in the end tho...
 
Oh you scared the crap outa me. I got the hd shackles bad greasable bolts. I thought u snapped em:doah:

I grease every zero fitting every time I go to the dunes. I'm so excited I now have about 100 zero fittings on my rig :haha:
 
still gonna one track it.. need to rotate em...
 
Yeah, I think you should loosen each one, back it in and out a bit, spin it, etc. It's just more maintenance than most are going to give them. But there are two goals here. The sleeve shouldn't move relative to the shackle or spring mount during normal operation - that's why it's there. Otherwise you would just drill bigger and use a bigger bolt. I know some people talk about leaving spring and shackle bolts a little loose "for flex", but that's a rock-crawling trick that doesn't really have a place on the street. So you almost have to disassemble the whole thing to lube it all. So the lubing and moving the bolt helps you get it apart someday, but it's the grease that makes it through that little hole in the sleeve that helps your flex. I've had springs flexing fine with completely fused bolts. The poly never seems to really fuse to the sleeve, even when the outside of the sleeve is growing from rust.
 
agreed.. just a thought I had to try when I installed em last time... don't hurt nothing and kinda ensures everything is as "free" as it can be imo.. I say that now, till i'm too lazy to do it... :haha:
 
Stock bushing are bonded rubber and nothing has to slide. That's why they are so quiet for decades with no maintenance. The rubber twists as the spring flexes. The bolt and sleeve are solid with the shackle or frame.
 
Exactly. I highly doubt I'd have the motivation at 9am before headin to the dunes to loosen up every shackle bolt to grease em and rotate lol
 
I never loosen anything.. I run pinch lock nuts, and just spin the bolt end 1/3 of a turn tightening before I grease em...
 
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I figure if stock bolts are not greasable. Even if these don't truly grease it all real well... It's still better than not.
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Well I figure that the ones I've had to cut out are worse than non-greaseable ones. Same results, but more cost.
 
MAn I've never had to cut a bolt off cuz if rust and I still put in greasable bolts.
Shouldn't the pressure of the grease gun push the grease all the way around the bolt? It's not like its going to only sit in the one spot by the hole. It should squeeze out and fill up the whole sleeve?
 
sponsoredbydad said:
IF YOU DON'T GREASE & ROTATE THEM:doah:Just thought I'd post up a simple reminder to go out and give them bolts a shot or two. Here is how I got my reminder this afternoon. Looks like I needed ORD's heavy duty shackles anyways.
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Thanx a lot... I was about to net yell at you for your slanderous words. I LOVE my shackle kit and greasable bolts... I was gonna go on a verbal onslot of how great they are and you sir are wrong.... But now I sit here with a red face going ah DOH! you got me. so get the HD's and keep your stuff Greased I say and Good day and good luck
BAWAHAHAHA
 
Smokinthehippies said:
Shouldn't the pressure of the grease gun push the grease all the way around the bolt? It's not like its going to only sit in the one spot by the hole. It should squeeze out and fill up the whole sleeve?
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You're lucky if grease comes out both ends of the bushing. If the sleeve is tight, the only path is through the hole in the sleeve. Then the grease travels between the sleeve and the bushing. Once it has a good path to the outside world, there is little resistance to flow, but there may be lots of resistance everywhere else. You could pump a quart of grease through and it would just keep pouring out that same spot.

The drilled holes are an aid to lubrication, but not a complete solution by themselves. It probably doesn't matter for you Cali guys.
 
I'm too lazy to grease it enough to not Have it happen. I just got the shackle Kit And greased it Real good Before I installed them. I usually hit all the zerks at least once a year but not sure if that would even be enough. By the time I ever need to take off the springs The bushings will probably be shot anyway. At least with the poly it will be easier to pull apart than the stock rubber ones either way.
 
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