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Finally!
I know its a Ford, but I really should have posted something about it here. It was just such a slow motion thing that I did not want to drag it out.

Swapped in a rebuilt motor after about 250K. Still ran strong and had good oil pressure, but it had a persistent leak into two cylinders that would not go away with a head gasket .
Figured it was a cracked head or block, and didn't want to tear it down and find that out.

New engine ran strong, but had problems with stalling and wanting to rev up. Fixed most of that with a new fuel pressure reg.
Drove it to town, and that is when the weirdness started.

Pull up to a red light behind a car, and without warning the engine would go to half throttle.
This truck is built to run over or through just about anything in its way, so this was not a good thing.
I would stand on the brakes and not crush the car in front. Then, suddenly it might throttle down and often stall.

I was a nervous wreck when I finally got it home.
Checked all the obvious things. TPS, fuel pressure, swapped the computer, wiring connections.
It has a air bypass motor to control the idle, did not even check it, just swapped it.
Disconnected the cruise control just in case.

Took it to my mechanic, and we saw an erratic pattern from the distributor to the computer.
Aha!
Dist. bushings were so worn, the interrupter wheel was hitting the plastic of the pickup.
But, its a Ford, so it kept running as best it could.

New dist. Same problem. The truck sounds haunted. Crank it up, it idles fine as long as its in open loop.
As soon as it goes closed, the show is on.

Everybody in the shop would stop and stare. Nobody close by, it idles a little while, then suddenly revs to 4K. Maybe higher, or lower.
Then drops back down to normal. Rinse, lather, repeat.

No apparent rhyme or reason. Might go along for 5 minutes normally, then peg the tach, or just blip its self up and down.

A lot of the folks thought I was playing a joke on them. It sounded like someone was doing it.

It stayed in the shop most of the summer. I would visit it, and try some things.
My mechanic would get some spare time, and roll it in and do some tests.

We tested every sensor on the thing. Used a breakout box to examine all the inputs and outputs on the computer.
The computer was commanding it to rev up. It knew what the rpm was, it just wanted it to go faster.

Finally, reading a copy of the program code in the computer I found, I discovered exactly one instance where the computer was supposed to rev the engine past fast idle with no command from the throttle.

That was in case of engine overheat at idle. It would rev the engine up to speed up the fan and cool it off.

I could not read the temp input from the computer. But the sending unit tested good, and the voltage seemed right according to his meter.

I went to the house to get my Scope, so I could catch any glitches or spikes and record them.
When I got back, it was idling fine. I watched it for a while, and looked at my mechanic.
He had a big grin on his face.
Didn't say a word, just handed me the old temp sensor.

Its laying here beside me now. I'm going to do some small electrical tests and then cut it open to do a detailed autopsy this weekend.


Meanwhile.......ITS BACK BABY!!

Lots of stuff that has been on hold is going to happen now.
That tree that fell across the road by the pond?
Meet a PTO winch!:D

Oh Yeah, Specs.

1989 F250, Modded.
351ci multport FI.
C6 tranny, 205 Tcase, 4:10s 12.50/33s mud.
8" channel iron swept back bumper, diamond plate on top.
12K+ hydraulic PTO winch running off the Tcase.

Armed.
 
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Sounds like it was possessed like the movie Christine. Anyhoo glad you got it back!

You say armed, can you elaborate! Or not!

Like rifle out the window, or like that show on Discovery, with the guys making guns. He has a Bronco with guns everywhere.
 
Aww, got to learn to love those problematic bastartd problems, if not mentally they will.eat you alive.

Hell with tearing down the sensor, I say use as Target practice.
 
Hell with tearing down the sensor, I say use as Target practice.

Its tempting, but I like to get to know my enemies so I can recognize them when they run at me again.

You say armed, can you elaborate! Or not!

No mounted guns right now. I dabbled a little with the earlier truck, and of course, had the "laser death ray" mounted on the hood of the Jeep that night.

But I bought a stainless steel 10/22 with what I thought was a synthetic stock for low maintenance purposes.
It used to get transferred from vehicle to vehicle when I did. That was OK, but it slowed me down if I was in a hurry.
So, I have been gradually stocking each vehicle with its own rifle.

I try to go cheap but reliable, so if it gets stolen, I'm not out much.
I'm going to stick with the 10/22s in stainless for the cars, but I picked up a bolt action Marlin 22mag for the truck.

I got tired of lobbing rounds at coyotes and having them jump and run off when it hits.
Stung one at almost 400 yards with a long rifle hollow point. Doubt it even broke the skin, but I was tired of him sitting in that pasture watching me when I drove by.

He was never there when I had the .270 or the .223. Don't know how he knew.

So, one afternoon, I ranged him with my laser rangefinder, and set me up a target at home.
Worked up the holdover with iron sights, and the next time he was sitting in the sun, he got a surprise.

Of course, I only ever saw him in the car, so the mag would have done me no good in the truck, but I have had some long shots in the truck as well.

Going to have to pick up some plastic or fiberglass stocks for the Rugers. What I thought was synthetic was just some green dyed laminated wood.

Spent most of the day getting rained on in the boat a few weeks ago, and it swelled and split some.
Ok now that it has dried, but I'm gonna swap them out anyway.
 
Sounds like it was possessed like the movie Christine.

I tell you, you just cannot imagine. In broad daylight, in a well lit shop with lots of people around it would almost give you a chill.

People visiting would not be bothered until they walked by and realized there was no one in the truck.
Sounded exactly like someone was in it revving the engine. Sometimes it would just suddenly rev up and hold it, and other times it acted like someone was waiting at a red light to race someone.
Just blipping the throttle.

Every so often, it would seem to sneak up on someone. It might behave its self for a minute or so, then when someone was standing with their back to it, it would suddenly wind up like someone had floored the throttle.

People would scramble out of the way.
I came in one day, and they had tied the shift lever across the column to the vent window.
I asked why, and they said they didn't want that thing dropping into reverse.......
 
Glad you got it figured out!

I've been hearing about this truck here and there from your posts. Never actually seen a pic. I know most of us are strictly GM but I think some of us can appreciate a well built truck of any make. Post up some pics, lets see this truck.
 
Check out Blackhawk for 10/22 furniture. Really nice.
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http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Axiom-RF-Ruger-1022-Rifle-Stock,1371,166.htm

Or this one,
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http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Axiom-RF-Ruger-22-Charger-Stock,1370,166.htm
 
Makes me wonder just how many of the "runaway vehicles" we see on TV news that went thru store fronts wide open,were actually the fault of the "elderly driver",and not the temp sensor,computer,etc...remember the Audi's that were noted for going thru people's garage's a while back??..

My friend put a salvage yard engine in a Ford Explorer some years ago--the swap went uneventfully,and after we'd gotten everything all bolted up and the wiring ,hoses and other crap all installed,I got in and started it up...it idled smoothly at first,then it started racing faster & faster,until it was hitting the rev limiter--I shut it down and we spent a good hour looking things over trying to find out why it did that--could see nothing out of the ordinary,and we cleaned the IAC motor and throttle body to no avail,did the same dam thing..

A customer had brought another Explorer in for an oil change,that was a year bewer--so we opened the hood on that one and compared things--only thing "wrong" we found was two vacuum hoses that plugged to some dewhicky up near the brake booster that I think was part of the cruise control,had the two vacuum hoses "reversed"--we switched them around,and the truck idled perfectly once again,no more "haunted" rhrottle!...after seeing that,we were talking,and my friend says "gee,if I knew someone with an Explorer I didn't like,it would not be hard to swap those 2 hoses around,and watch them start it up and dive away,and then go for the ride of their life!....:eek:...weird thing was the truck would run perfectly normal for about 30 seconds to a minute or so,then "floor" itself!...so you'd be unawate of any trouble till it was too late!..
 
I had a 68 barracuda fastback that used to try and start by itself every now and then... short in the solenoid...... me and a bud parked it one day, walking across the parking lot, then it starts cranking by itself... too funny...
 
I had a 68 barracuda fastback that used to try and start by itself every now and then... short in the solenoid...... me and a bud parked it one day, walking across the parking lot, then it starts cranking by itself... too funny...

that was just karma for owning a barracuda lol :D

fordum, pics!
 
Yeah, we had a forklift crank its self up and run through a building one time. Made sure they were out of gear after that.
I was pretty quick back then, but I was just too far away.

I've posted some pics of the truck before, mostly of the winch and bumper. Now that its home, I'll wander out and get some more.

Kinda hate to do it right now, its in need of some work, and I have never gotten a chance to paint the body.

But, I'll post some, and if I can find any, I'll post a couple of when it was looking right.
Pretty much everything is good mechanically, but it needs some cosmetic work.

I am ashamed of the winch cable though. Its been sitting up, and I need to replace it.

Here is a link to some of the winch pictures I posted here before.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249796

Its so sad, I still have not replaced that cable I was going to back then.:doah:
 
Kinda hate to do it right now, its in need of some work, and I have never gotten a chance to paint the body.

But, I'll post some, and if I can find any, I'll post a couple of when it was looking right.
Pretty much everything is good mechanically, but it needs some cosmetic work.

Um... have you seen some of the trucks we post pics of on here? I don't think you have anything to worry about.
 
Um... have you seen some of the trucks we post pics of on here? I don't think you have anything to worry about.

I know, but it used to look so good. All the seams lined up, the paint was factory, had all the little trim pieces.
Looked totally stock except for the winch and bumper. And even that looked good.

OK, got some pics, let me write up a post explaining everything for the folks who don't know the story, and I'll start posting.
 
OK due to numerous requests....Two, I think, here are some pictures of the truck in question.
Remember, its 22 years old, close to 300K miles, and has been through things you would not believe.

Some quick history.
I had a 79 F150 half ton. Built like a tank. Shaft drive PTO winch, channel iron bumper, tough as H*ll.
Wanted to get a new one. They quit making decent 1/2 tons in 80. So, I was going with 3/4 ton.
They only make those in LWB. I drive in the swamps a lot, and its tight quarters, LWB was not going to cut it.
I knew the guys at the local Ford dealership, so I went down there. Got their book, and custom ordered a new truck.
Supercooling package, Fl, you know. Tow package, heavy duty suspension and even more fluid coolers.
Snowplow option. Had to freak them out since it was going to Fl, but it gave me an extra heavy duty front suspension.
Special ordered a BW 1365 transfer case with the PTO option. It had a half aluminum and half magnesium housing to handle the PTO weight and torque load.

Worked up a deal with the dealer and a local custom truck body company. They installed work bodies, booms, that sort of thing.
Found a SWB rear bed in a junkyard that was less than a year old. Front of the truck was totaled, bed was fine.
Junkyard agreed to swap me even.

Truck came, I never even saw it. Dealer drove it straight to the shop. They took the bed off, cut the frame to SWB specs and welded it back together. The exhaust had a spacer in it that made it LWB, just remove it and you had a SWB exhaust.
The front gas tank had to be swapped, since the L and S were different. Rear tank was same for both.
Brake line had a piece in it that could be taken out.
Rear driveshaft had go to a machine shop that specializes in driveshafts and get shortened.
Ford did not make a SWB driveshaft with the right ends on it.

Bolted on the SWB bed, hooked everything up, and it went back to the dealer. They painted the rear bed to match, and called me to come get it.

Everything was great, except the transfer case did not have a PTO opening. I called, and Ford had discontinued that option because even with the Mag housing, they were having problems with it cracking.

So, then I got busy. Swapped in a NP 205, still have the old T case with less than 1k on it, ought to sell it one of these days.
PTO shaft wound up against the back of the bell housing. I could have gone with a double gear to clear, but the exhaust system had changed since '79, and there was no room for a shaft.

So, I turned it around, mounted a hydraulic pump on it and bought a Braden Winch with a hydraulic motor on it.
Put a tank in the back under the tool box.

A word about that tool box. I took a closeup of it. Its the same age as the truck, I have stood on it for hundreds of hours deer hunting, it has a few rust spots, but its as sound as the day I put it on.
Stainless steel latches, very heavy steel, best tool box I ever saw.
Only trouble with it, when I got it full of cr*p, it cracked the edges of the bed from weight.
So, I added that 1/2 inch frame you can just see under it.

The only trouble ever with the work, was that the bolts under the front of the bed got loose after about 15 years and the bed developed a slight rattle.
I tried to tighten them up, but they were carriage bolts and they spun.
The heads were under my hydraulic tank, so I just let it rattle.
Eventually it wore the bed rails out where it sits on the frame, and it collapsed one morning when I was hauling butt over a plowed field trying to get to a turkey on the other side of a branch before the fog lifted.

So, I put that body on it, but have not gotten it painted yet.

On with the pics.

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Now the last set.
Including the cause of it all.........

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man! that's some serious underbite

ol' faithful continues huh, nice


Yep, its the funniest thing, when I'm rolling down the road, no one ever pulls out in front of me.
I have actually had some of those folks that like to pull way out and make you wonder if they are going to, back up when they see me.......:D
 
Dude.....I hope you don't misunderstand my intentions when I say this....


That bumper is rediculous...:eek1::haha:

Interesting truck though. :pimp1:
 

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