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dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
so, hit the area with a flapper wheel, and then just cut the area around the bracket, like so?
Red? Blue? or Green? (i know, terrible drawing...took 3 seconds)
Its my only rusty area, so I want to do it right and then put the bedliner down and be done with it. Other than the small hole, most of it appears to be surface rust only. There is a heavy duty bracket already welded in from the previous owners repair job i assume.
Red? Blue? or Green? (i know, terrible drawing...took 3 seconds)
Its my only rusty area, so I want to do it right and then put the bedliner down and be done with it. Other than the small hole, most of it appears to be surface rust only. There is a heavy duty bracket already welded in from the previous owners repair job i assume.
My vote, if the surrounding metal is still strong enough, just weld the hole closed and grind it flush. A chunk of aluminum or brass on the underside of the hole will prevent the weld from burning through. Done.
Why create more work for yourself? Cutting out any of those sections, and a section from another truck, grinding and trimming to fit, welding it all in, then grinding down the welds is way more work than I would like to do for that little blemish.
Why create more work for yourself? Cutting out any of those sections, and a section from another truck, grinding and trimming to fit, welding it all in, then grinding down the welds is way more work than I would like to do for that little blemish.
Hell, if that was my truck, I'd hit it with primer on both sides of the panel, let it dry, then fill the hole with something called POR Patch or POR Putty (I forget which one). Basically a thicker, pasty like version of POR-15. It's good for filling small holes like that, hardens up real strong. About the only good thing to come out of the POR brand of stuff. I've had real good luck with it in the past.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
well, im ok with easy, but i want this to last. what about grinding it all to clean metal....filling any hole with jb weld. grinding smooth, self etching primer. and then hit with the bedliner?
That would work too, but prime first, then JB it. Simply to put a coating of something over the bare metal first. Another coat of primer over that wouldn't hurt either. Ryoken has mentioned in the past that you should go all the way to paint before applying the bedliner. It's just that one more coating of protection to keep moisture out. Be sure to protect the underside of the repaired panel as well or all of this is useless.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
Cool.
to clarify...did you mean to say "Ryoken has mentioned in the past that you should go all the way to paint before applying the bedliner"
so, just hit this with an abrasive wheel on my drill. There is alot of what i think is called "pitting". How do I get the rust out of the deeper pits? Or does it need to just grind down to bare metal and be flat?
before and after.
to clarify...did you mean to say "Ryoken has mentioned in the past that you should go all the way to paint before applying the bedliner"
so, just hit this with an abrasive wheel on my drill. There is alot of what i think is called "pitting". How do I get the rust out of the deeper pits? Or does it need to just grind down to bare metal and be flat?
before and after.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
also, what should i do about this "liner" stuff that is under the driver and passenger side foot wells?Its like a sheet of adhesive plastic?
I'd use a wire wheel on a grinder and then some kind of rust converter like Ospho...
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
will a 2" body lift keep me from having to cut?
On a different note, I have the chance to snag a new 2" body lift kit for a 1979. Few questions...
1. Will it fit?
2. Will I be able to install my 4" lift and 37" tires and not have to cut fenders with a 2" body lift?
3. Is it worth $30
I didnt really want a body lift at first, but now I think I would rather do it if it means I dont have to cut the fenders.
On a different note, I have the chance to snag a new 2" body lift kit for a 1979. Few questions...
1. Will it fit?
2. Will I be able to install my 4" lift and 37" tires and not have to cut fenders with a 2" body lift?
3. Is it worth $30
I didnt really want a body lift at first, but now I think I would rather do it if it means I dont have to cut the fenders.
CherryK5
1/2 ton status
And it will make it nice if you ever have to pull a trans. Ive come to like my BL for that very reason
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
will a kit for a 79 fit mine?
CherryK5
1/2 ton status
Absolutely nooo idea
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I think the 78-91 tubs are the same. But you might have to come up with some misc. hardware on your own. Unless you limit up travel you will still have to trim.
As far as the "liner" on the floor, actually I think it's a sound absorbing material, on one side of my truck it was peeling up in spots. I was able to pull up a corner and grab hold and pull the whole thing up in one sheet. Didn't even need a heat gun, just came up like a big piece of tape. The drivers side was stuck down pretty good, must have been the heat from the exhaust. I scuffed the surface real good, trimmed off any rough edges and bedlined over the rest of it. Over a year now with daily use and no issues.
And to answer your other question, I myself, did not go all the way to paint before applying bedliner. I brushed on a good coat of rustoleum primer on the bare metal and repaired spots (welded the cracks in the floor from the original seats) and used the afforementioned POR Patch on any welded seams. Instead of heeding Ryokens warning, I applied the Herculiner right over the primer and POR stuff instead of painting first. I am prepared to live with my mistake but didn't want to lead you down the wrong path. So, my advice to you is not to do what I did and go all the way to paint before applying bedliner. You do what you want, it's your truck.
And to answer your other question, I myself, did not go all the way to paint before applying bedliner. I brushed on a good coat of rustoleum primer on the bare metal and repaired spots (welded the cracks in the floor from the original seats) and used the afforementioned POR Patch on any welded seams. Instead of heeding Ryokens warning, I applied the Herculiner right over the primer and POR stuff instead of painting first. I am prepared to live with my mistake but didn't want to lead you down the wrong path. So, my advice to you is not to do what I did and go all the way to paint before applying bedliner. You do what you want, it's your truck.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
and by "go all the way to paint" you mean to scuff it all the way to paint right? thats what I have been doing so far. if I accidentally go through the paint and onto bare metal, I just hit it with some self etching primer.
is that right?
is that right?
magik235
Still Alive
That is what I do when I apply Herculiner.
dieselndixie
1/2 ton status
so is it worth grabbing for 30 bucks? easy to install? what are the downsides? If it atleast minimizes the fender cutting, i might do it.
CherryK5
1/2 ton status
Mine took about 2 hours and I had to find a couple bolts because mine is off a ramcbarger and the bolts were different. The hardest part was dropping the tank.
Also 6 inches of lift with 37's might not fit in the garage.
Next time I come over I'll bring mine and to show where I trimmed. You have to look inside the opening to see it but I have no rubbing issues.
Next time I come over I'll bring mine and to show where I trimmed. You have to look inside the opening to see it but I have no rubbing issues.
