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Im going to get a set tommorrow from a guy across town-IF they'll fit.

Do they fit front and rear SRW axles without modifying?
I have D44and 14BFF,but Ill be swapping to a 60 soon as I find one.
 
KADILLACKID said:
Im going to get a set tommorrow from a guy across town-IF they'll fit.

Do they fit front and rear SRW axles without modifying?
I have D44and 14BFF,but Ill be swapping to a 60 soon as I find one.
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probably will fit rear, but wont clear steering componets in the front.
 
You can run them just fine on what you have if you get 2" spacers all the way around. The rear will clear, but the fronts won't like said above. Then, if you get the DRW 60, you will end up having to get 4" spacers for the rear.
 
DRW is Dual Rear Wheel, and SRW is Single Rear Wheel. The front axles on DRW trucks are wider than the SRW trucks.
 
Yes, they have 7" (some say 7.25") of backspacing. So you get 2" spacers all around or use a DRW front axle and spacers in the rear or you can get them re-centered at a couple of shops.

Of course they are 8 lug but they come in 8 bolt or 12 bolt which is the number of bolts that hold the two sides together. 8 bolt is rated for 35psi and the 12 bolt for 50psi. 12 bolts also have a higher weight rating as well.

Price? $50 ea for 8 bolt is a general asking price. $35 or less a good price. 12 bolt is $100 and a good price is $75 or less. Most do not include the stock "run-flat" insert for inside the tire. You need something for the rim to compress onto the tire. HMMWV inserts are either rubber or magnesium. You can also get aftermarket inserts, mostly plastic, that aren't run-flat but easier to work with.

Check the valves! They are hard to come by unless you don't mind paying $80 ea:doah::eek1::doah::eek1: at the Hummer Stealership or can drill out the rectangular holes to round for standard valves.

So good luck & good bargaining!:D
 
BKinzey said:
Price? $50 ea for 8 bolt is a general asking price. $35 or less a good price. 12 bolt is $100 and a good price is $75 or less. Most do not include the stock "run-flat" insert for inside the tire. You need something for the rim to compress onto the tire. HMMWV inserts are either rubber or magnesium. You can also get aftermarket inserts, mostly plastic, that aren't run-flat but easier to work with.
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do you have to have the inserts if you don't care about the inner beadlock? i may get a set to run on my street truck.
 
YZEATER said:
do you have to have the inserts if you don't care about the inner beadlock? i may get a set to run on my street truck.
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I wouldnt... mainly because they are a bitch to balance and were designed to be used with a ring..
gabe
 
to get around the spacer issues you can run a drw 60 and a 14bff out of a van. the van axle is wider than a trucks. but untill then yah its spacers.
 
If you have a 44 front then you will have to have spacers or recenter the rims. As far as the back the thing you need to keep in mind is that the taller your tire the more likley it is to rub the inner fender when flexed. Right where you have those nice rivits that like to eat rubber. I run a DRW 60 and a van 14 bolt and stock H1s. I'd still like my rear tires out a bit further mainly to protect the body though. If you are continually popping beads then maybe you could validate running these. If not then i wouldn't worry about it. Do you have 16.5" tires for these all ready?

As far as running the rims minus the runflat, yes it can be done but you essentially are reducing the rim to any othher 16.5" rim out there- bead slips easily.
 
YZEATER said:
do you have to have the inserts if you don't care about the inner beadlock? i may get a set to run on my street truck.
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In that case, you would be better off running stock wheels, without any worry of back spacing. There would be nothing to gain running the H1's.
 
thanks alot guys for the info...

BKinzy-learned lots from you today!thanks!

They do have runflats-actually they have all 4 tires too but they are bald.I dont have a set of tires yet but I was hoping to find a set off the lovely ol internet for cheep,or a set of 38x12.5 swampers or 38x11 boggers if they come in 16.5.I mainly wanted them for looks-I love how they look:haha: ,but I like how cheep the military tires are for them and I like the looks of the military tires,and this is for my buggy so it has to be on the cheep(as possible).as far as the 60 goes Im still tossing the ideas around-36 or 38s as big as Ill go and skinny ones too so I dont think Ill need a 60 in reality,plus its a pretty light buggy so far-and no inner rear fenders to rub on.Ill pick up 2" spacers for the front if I get the rims,but Im not worried about the rear being narrower,that seems to be the norm for 4x4 chevys anyhow.I wouldnt want em recentered,I love the look of the deep backspacing.I may end up with an s-10 cab on this thing if I find one on the cheep so I can stay street legal.I remember these rims and tires being on a 90's f-250 but the guy who's selling them just got em on a trade,so ho dosent know much about them,or how they fit on that ford,so Ill probly be able to swing them for a decent cash price or a trade.
 
Here's more info than most care to know:D

The 12 bolt rims? There are actually 2 types. One has a load rating of 3400lbs and the other has a limit of 3850lbs:eek1: The higher rated rim came about because of the armor they began adding on. The heavier rim uses a red or reddish O-ring rather than the black one. Both rims have stamped ratings and the newer one also has a 13th hole which is slightly smaller and offset from the other 12.

That's about it for my knowledge:haha:
 
I saw you said they have square valve stem holes, Is that on the 12 bolts, cause my 8 bolts had round?
 
Like others said, you can run Dually axles (I'm running a Dana 60 Front and a Dana 70 Rear out of '77 Dually truck)

You could recenter them for pretty cheap and not have to worry about expensive wheel spacers

However, I would really question whether a 44/10B is strong enough for the weight. The wheels are heavy pigs, and add big tires, they're insanely heavy. My 12-bolts with 38.5" tires weigh in the neighborhood of 150lbs each.
 
boz42 said:
I saw you said they have square valve stem holes, Is that on the 12 bolts, cause my 8 bolts had round?
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Hmmmm. Never pulled the valve out of an 8 bolt. They looked the same on the outside.:thinking::dunno:
 
i have a 4x crew cab with drw. i'd like to run the hummer wheels on the front and back so i can use the drw axles. it has a d60 and d70. that's why i was asking about the runflat's. it's not going to be wheeled very much if at all, so i'm not worried about popping beads off. it will be used for hauling my offroad only truck.
so if it's possible that's all i need to know.
 
I just membered that I think Northwest Fab makes crossover/hi steer arms that bring the arm inward there by allowing clearance for these rims. Do some searching on various types of highsteer arms. The drag of that of course is that's a $$$ mod just to run cheap wheels.

Yea I have heard that the 12 bolts have a weird valve stem. The consensus here seems to be drill it out and run normal stems.
 
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