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has anyone seen this cummins crossmember/mount?

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www.autoworldmt.com has a mount for the cummins that looks like it stiffens and reinforces the frame. Looks to be a solid kit. I didnt know if anybody had seen this kit but its for our sqarebodies. Figured I'd post it up.

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I seen it in a diesel mag this morning. took for ever to find the site after the mag was taken home by the owner:rolleyes: I the site sucks and theres no prices though:confused:
 
I've heard of autoworld before. They've been around a long time.

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the site sucks and theres no prices though:confused:

HIGH QUALITY, HEAVYDUTY CROSSMEMBER/MOTOR MOUNTS FOR THE OLD BODY STYLE GM & FORD NOW AVAILABLE!!!! PRICING STARTS AT $650.00

Thats under the 'parts for your repower' link.
 
I've been to there shop, its a small operation but they really do quality work I wouldn't hesitate buying from them
 
That seems really expensive for some mitered box tube with some plate a flanges welded to it. I mean I know theyve done the work of the r&d for motor placement etc but it just seems expensive to me.
 
Well they have done the R&D , sure you could make a copy of it for less but your not counting your time in to that equation
 
Well they have done the R&D , sure you could make a copy of it for less but your not counting your time in to that equation


I guess thats just the mentality you get when you make/do everything your self and are used to just pay materials/parts costs.
 
There is a point sometimes when your/my time is worth more than what it costs to reinvent the wheel. You may not be at that point, I'm well past that point. Everyones different on the scale of money versus time.

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Looks like it will still have front diff to crossmember clearance issues like my Avalanche crossmember did (came with the truck :rolleyes:) with a lower lift height (say, 4"). I had to modify the Avalanche one to have more than a couple inches of bump travel (may be at 4-5" now) and this looks like it would have the same issue. Spendy too, would make me consider building it myself but that may be the cheap college student holding out in me :haha:
 
What Luke says hits the Nail on the head, My time is worth money , for every hour I spend monkeying around with a project like that is one that I cant spend wheeling or spending time with my G/F .

I've made do before, you really don't save any thing in the long run.


Time + Money = Total project "cost"

now you can reduce Money by increasing Time and vice-versa but the end "cost" is always the same
 
Ah very true there too, Scott at TN diesel convertions is a super good dude too. I used his mounts to put my 12v in my '97 crewcab. Fantastic customer support.

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Looks like it will still have front diff to crossmember clearance issues like my Avalanche crossmember did (came with the truck :rolleyes:) with a lower lift height (say, 4"). I had to modify the Avalanche one to have more than a couple inches of bump travel (may be at 4-5" now) and this looks like it would have the same issue. Spendy too, would make me consider building it myself but that may be the cheap college student holding out in me :haha:

Now that's funny... I was gonna bring up the ORD crossmember :haha: cuz I bought one recently.

I paid for mine rather than making one, as I figgered the time-vs-money thing was not balanced in my favor :deal: Admittedly y'all's is like half the price of this one, plus it's got tube so it's veeery slinky and seckseh, and harder for me-with-no-bender to fab my own, so in this case it was a no-brainer. More money and easier to fab, though, makes it a tougher call. :dunno:

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Now that's funny... I was gonna bring up the ORD crossmember :haha: cuz I bought one recently.

I paid for mine rather than making one, as I figgered the time-vs-money thing was not balanced in my favor :deal: Admittedly y'all's is like half the price of this one, plus it's got tube so it's veeery slinky and seckseh, and harder for me-with-no-bender to fab my own, so in this case it was a no-brainer. More money and easier to fab, though, makes it a tougher call. :dunno:

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Just about everything in the aftermarket is like that, as I alluded to before I built everything myself in college (including cutting link/shock tabs from plate with a cutoff wheel/grinder/drill). Much of that was really dumb but I was trying to build everything on a real tight budget like many, I was lucky to keep my rig running/wheeling.

Your comment about your crossmember reminds me of the 241 gear reduction box I built, which was done on a super cheap budget and done completely by me, a couple years before I worked for ORD. The end result was a box that isn't centered (by how much who knows but it physically bolts together :haha:) and that, while I only have a few hundred into it, I have LOTS of time into. Really, your time can't be worth much to do one-off custom stuff like that.

We'll have that as a new product (done the right way, like no one else does) hopefully in the next week or so but that's a tangent.

Hi-jack aside along to another one, stuff like that is what I (we, Offroad Design) avoid at all costs: a bracket with a million different holes in it because the company producing it doesn't know where things actually fit. The crossmember I got from ********* (for putting a Cummins in an older Chevy) had say, 3 horizontal positions and four vertical positions, so a dozen variations. The 5.9L Cummins turbo diesel it was designed for fits in exactly one of those 14 options. The worst part? The owner of the company couldn't even tell me which holes worked on the truck with that motor, the motor and truck that those brackets are designed for. F that.

I don't mean to explicitly pimp ORD's name too much here but being the newest engineer designing parts this last year or so, we don't build parts that aren't installed on multiple trucks first. And used. Hard. Our parts fit and we know where/how/why they should fit where they do because we actually install them on trucks that we actually use. We (and I largely mean everyone from the shipping guy to the welders to the guys running the mills to us engineers in the office) all have 4WD Chevy's and we all have countless years of wheeling these trucks on everything from fire roads to the most extreme rock trails.

Apologies for the hi-jack (especially since we don't sell Cummins conversions crossmembers anyway) but I was really irritated having to remove and re-install a 1200 lb motor a few times because the manufacturer of my crossmember couldn't tell me which set of holes were right. Almost like they'd barely done it before. One of those things that more holes doesn't mean more options, just more places to install things in the wrong place. Good thing it came free with the truck or I'd be really pissed about paying for it :deal:
 
I dont figure my time as worth anything when I'm fabbin stuff up. If I was inside watching TV for that amount of time it would have been even more useless. so acomplishing ANYTHING is worth my time:D Cause I'll be the first to say that TV wins most of the time with me. But when I get started on something I'm fabbing. I'll go till its done with any time not spent at work or sleeping:thumb: Thats what I'm in this hobby for:rolleyes:

The cummins swap is looking even more interesting now:thinking:
 
I dont figure my time as worth anything when I'm fabbin stuff up.

I was in the "bush" 302 days last year . Of the other 63 days, 30 of those I had to work 8hrs a day at our Anchorage office.


So my time off is pretty valuable I have to cram alot of "normal" life into it. :doah:
 

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