85, you got any pics with all 4 of your Iroks on yet?
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How much lift is practical, what's the threshold?
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Ok, as long as you don't mind. I didn't want to stray too far from practical.jiminycricket said:Hey Divorced - your not trashing the thread at all. In fact the more debate there is on lift vs stability the better chance it will help someone out.
Keep it going, be nice to hear from the rock crowd as well.
I will, but it won't be until after the 1st of the year... and as long as it is too cold for me. I'm a sissy like that.muddybuddy said:divorced...take those pics, prove the tall lift haters wrong!
This is what I have noticed also. Although they may not be the best for rock crawlin', they really aren't as unstable as most people think. A lot of trucks at the mud bash have rocker panels about chest high.gmtech954 said:
There was a truck at the mud bash that had tractor tires and the rocker panel was above my head (I'm 6' 0"). It even had two frames stacked... the best of ghetto fab!RootBreaker said:
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lrazer
1/2 ton status
i don't think you can say there is no physical way this is possible
im not a fan of huge lifts but it does make sense that a truck has a better chance of getting through mud if less parts are being drug through
I will bottle up some mud and send it to you, then you can decide. For some reason my smilies aren't working, otherwise this reply would have been followed the prerequisite number of smilies to indicate humor was my main intention.6.2Blazer said:
85mudblazin
1/2 ton status
Before trimming.....muddybuddy said:
85mudblazin
1/2 ton status
After trimming front....
To me, 4" lift on the lighter side for rate just plain works. Better than stock, better than anything taller. If you want to get serious, add 42" tires (don't care for 44s) to deal with ground clearance and figure out how to get the rest of the stuff out of the way. If you don't need or want the headaches, go with the tires that suite you and either way, clearance/smooth the axles, particularly the 14B...
86Cucvbeater
1/2 ton status
RootBreaker said:here is some jerzey trucks for ya
I hope the majority of the trucks up there in jersey do not have 2ft. tall blocks like this one!
At least the u-bolts are the turn-up style!
86Cucvbeater said:I hope the majority of the trucks up there in jersey do not have 2ft. tall blocks like this one!
At least the u-bolts are the turn-up style!
for an offroad truck..... no biggie.. as it sees no street... guy has wheeled it bigtime... also had it on ebay.... building a chevy.. in memory of a friend... he was helping the friend build a chevy on rocks and tractors... but the guy passed away... they were so close... mom gave the guy ALL the parts..... plus sell the ford so he can build the chevy....
Mudder
A few years ago, ok many years ago there was a mudder called Mud Lord. Yes, he had lots of lift and tractor tires. But he never managed to get his rims dirty. He came off he line at 5,000 rpm and never looked back. Never sunk more than 1' into the mud. The more water in the mud the better he liked it, easier to clean and a smoother ride.
A few years ago, ok many years ago there was a mudder called Mud Lord. Yes, he had lots of lift and tractor tires. But he never managed to get his rims dirty. He came off he line at 5,000 rpm and never looked back. Never sunk more than 1' into the mud. The more water in the mud the better he liked it, easier to clean and a smoother ride.
mciahpv
Registered Member
I think that MTMike and 85MudBlazin hit it on the head: You've got to do what's right for you and your particular situation. A lot of the advice here is geared toward rocks and Western terrain. (Which is fine, it is, after all COLORADO...K5) But there are a lot of us here who share the same passion but happen to deal with very different styles of terrain and driving. Here in central Florida, where we're literally 15 feet above sea level, tons of articulation and a pretty COG are nice to talk about over a beer, but essentially useless out in the stuff. (And don't get me wrong, I'm in awe of the engineering that some of you do to achieve those things with your rigs.) It's just a little harsh to hear sometimes the talk about 'mall crawlers' and 'impractical lift' when altitude and big tires is what makes you successful over the obstacles we're presented with here. I'm not trying to impress anybody with my setup, I'm trying to make my rig more capable. Would it work in Colorado? HELL NO! I'd be upside down before I went a quarter mile. But it's awful effective in the spots where I drive... Just a thought.
One more, if you can stand it. I've heard a lot of people talk about the lack of streetability of tall tires and lift. I think (and this is definitely IMHO) that this is more of a byproduct of poor workmanship than an inherent deficiency in the setup. I'm running 12" of suspension lift and 44" bias Ground Hawgs -- and as God is my witness, the thing drives smoother that it did stock. Why? Because I worked hard to make it like that. If you just want to get it in the air and slap huge blocks on it and giant bias meats with golf balls in them... well, buy the ticket take the ride. I'm not down on anyone or their ride -- we all engineer our rigs within the limits of our abilities, budgets and environments. But I feel as though we all get dismissive sometimes of people's rigs that don't meet our own standards of what's "right"
Anyway, I'm starting to ramble here, so I'll stop. (No more drinking and posting) To sum it up: Decide what you want to do -- then design your rig to do just that. There's no magic formula. I'll sum it up with my favorite quote on this topic: "Take off the training wheels and let your vehicle evolve."
By the way: LOVE those Jersey rigs...
One more, if you can stand it. I've heard a lot of people talk about the lack of streetability of tall tires and lift. I think (and this is definitely IMHO) that this is more of a byproduct of poor workmanship than an inherent deficiency in the setup. I'm running 12" of suspension lift and 44" bias Ground Hawgs -- and as God is my witness, the thing drives smoother that it did stock. Why? Because I worked hard to make it like that. If you just want to get it in the air and slap huge blocks on it and giant bias meats with golf balls in them... well, buy the ticket take the ride. I'm not down on anyone or their ride -- we all engineer our rigs within the limits of our abilities, budgets and environments. But I feel as though we all get dismissive sometimes of people's rigs that don't meet our own standards of what's "right"
Anyway, I'm starting to ramble here, so I'll stop. (No more drinking and posting) To sum it up: Decide what you want to do -- then design your rig to do just that. There's no magic formula. I'll sum it up with my favorite quote on this topic: "Take off the training wheels and let your vehicle evolve."
By the way: LOVE those Jersey rigs...
78Suburban
1/2 ton status
This thread has me depressed, because I had really set my mind to getting a 4" lift. That's probably what I will still get, because even though I want to enter into a few mud bogs, I will still probably do a healty ammount of trails, eventually.
James
James
there ya go... you want some mud... but mostly trails... im finding my truck hitting trail height limits... if I do 44's which some day im hoping to do.. but gotta get past the lift laws.... I will only do a 3" body lift... giving me 10" lift and 44's... and more cutting.......but yeah do what you see you will need.... and comfortable in...78Suburban said:
