I like having torches...

[Blue85]

The "engineers" who design some of thios stuff should be ball kicked repeatedly in the groin for making things impossible to repair and using recycled crap steel to make it too..

Why don't you think about how the world works before spewing this nonsense? Some of the things you are complaining about are driven by cost - meaning the car you imagine would cost more than you would pay. Plus - design compromises are usually caused by managers/executives. The engineers would usually over-design everything if given the liberty.

BTW, which parts are recycled and why is that bad?


At least you explained your reasons:

I'm a guy who is still stuck in the 80's...and I'm a clueless idiot..

 

[aychdee]

There the hold down pin is burried behind the backing plate iirc

 

[496truck]

Yup, the head of the pin is inset into an indent in the back of the backing plate. If you could get the pin depressed it would maybe be 1/4" out, not really enough to get past the indent and to get a set of cutters in there. Torching the pin heads would definitely waste the thin backing plate. Plus, the shoes are still spread by spreader mechanism attached to the cable and the anchor pin with a flange on it at one end and the adjuster at the other. All of this is still behind the hub flange.

In theory, maybe I could've cut the pins and pulled the FF axle out and undid the hub bearings and tried to take it all out as an assembly. Then deal with the stuck shoes from the back side. But that sounds like more work in the end, plus more parts needed like axle seals at the very least. But I still think the spreader mechanism or the anchor pin flange would've held on pretty good.

Not sure what you mean by reusing the drums... They are one piece with the rotor and the rotors were junk. I wasn't trying to save them.

 

[diesel4me]

Why don't you think about how the world works before spewing this nonsense? Some of the things you are complaining about are driven by cost - meaning the car you imagine would cost more than you would pay. Plus - design compromises are usually caused by managers/executives. The engineers would usually over-design everything if given the liberty.

BTW, which parts are recycled and why is that bad?


At least you explained your reasons:

Hey,no need to get personal if you disagree with me...
..sorry if your an engineer,and took offence to my comments,but I stand by my opinion..many things on newer vehicles ARE designed to fail prematurely and make repair difficult for the average Joe..many parts like backing plates,brake,fuel and tranny cooler lines and the chassis all rot away in record time nowadays,and I'm betting they use mostly recycled metal to make those parts...

Nice you can twist my words around to make me look bad..This ain't the Pirate 4x4 website,I joined up here because most members treat others with respect and dont participate in flaming or belittlement..guess that is changing too?..

 

[wasted wages]

sorry if your an engineer,and took offence to my comments,but I stand by my opinion..many things on newer vehicles ARE designed to fail prematurely and make repair difficult for the average Joe..many parts like backing plates,brake,fuel and tranny cooler lines and the chassis all rot away in record time nowadays,and I'm betting they use mostly recycled metal to make those parts...

HHHMMMMMM,,,,,,

Lets see.....My 07 Dodge 3500 dually had what appeared to be a clutch failure at 100,000 miles.....I found out at that time, manufactures have gone to a "Dual Mass" flywheel.... That little "engineering feat" ended costing me 1500.00 to replace...
reason for engineers using the dual mass ?...Keeps down the driveline noise...IT"S A 1 TON TRUCK....who gives a crap about a little driveshaft noise or gear chatter...
It's kinda funny how all of the replacement kits come with SOLID ****IN FLYWHEELS !!!!!!!
Gee....something that has worked for 50 years......lets screw it up and see how we can make it fail early...


HMMMMMMM......

What about UNIT BEARINGS HUBS????????????
Another good one......Simple spindle design...worked for years and years.....
Lets see how we can get engineers to **** it up......

Lets see what else.....greaseless u-joints, front end parts, 700r4's,,intake gaskets on GM engines...on and on and on...

I'm with ya....if an engineer had to work on the stuff he builds....they would design it completely different..