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jevneaks

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This.
I call it the Jack Point and it's an idea I've had for a long time. I finally made it happen and here it is. It's essentially a notch in the bumper that supports the steel standard bar of a hi-lift and keeps it in line with the vehicle so it can't fall over(cuz that never happens, right?) Anyway, I went through the patent process and it's pending now. Constructive criticism is always welcome and that's actually what I'm looking for.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbZn3LDX0wI

It's just a prototype but the hole in the lower section where the SSB runs through is intended for a pin so you can use your hi-lift like a jack stand if you need to work on your truck on the trail. Most bumpers have clevis attachment points and my idea has 2 per side.

Let me know what you think!! :laugh:

edit to add: I tried embedding the youtube vid but no luck... a little help?
 

I always wondered why no one made something like this.:waytogo:
 
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I like the idea, but I have a question.

Will it work with any bumper or do you need something specific?

Or do you need that whole contraption in the vid?

How about a vid showing the actual operation... on a vehicle. And with sound, someone narrating the operation (the original vid has no sound).
 
I have a version in mind that just plugs into a receiver hitch as well. I do want to bolt it to my frame and get some video of it in operation. My truck is back in WY though and I'm 11hrs away in SD right now. When I head back after Christmas I'll get a video of it working on my frame(cuz my truck is in pieces). It would be integrated into any bumper so long as the bumper was structurally sound enough to lift the vehicle.

Oh and there should be sound, cuz there is on my end :)

Here's how my truck sits now....
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I had sound when I watched it. (that loud hiss got old fast though)

looks like it works as intended and would make using a hi-lift a lot safer. it looks like you'd have to put a notch in your bumper though, or am I looking at it wrong?
also, I agree that showing it working on an actual vehicle would go a long way. its hard to tell exactly what the advantage is the way it looks in the video. what is attached to the jack, and what is supposed to be left on the bumper.
 
You gotta paint those gas tanks dude. They look so out of place with all that nice painted stuff around them.

Here's a thought, since most 4x4s have a bumper with clevis attachment points, why not build/patent something similar to what you designed that will use a clevis mounting hole. Maybe you though of this already. I'm just brainstorming here. It would be a bit more universal.
 
I like it, but my highlift always kicks out at the bottom. Need to replace that stupid pin.
 
Ashman- Sorry about the compressor draining while I shot the vid :( Anyway, the notches are built into the bumper and the lower section goes over the jack.
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Here's a shot of the lower section.
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This is what it would look like if it were mounted on the vehicle and in the upper most position.
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And a side shot.
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Didn't intend to create so much confusion. And yes 496, there are two clevis holes per side on the bumper. I only had the center section fabbed up and won't put the sides on until I have the front clip on the truck.

I appreciate everyone's input so far :)
 
By the time you jack it high enough to take the flex out of the springs and get the wheel off the ground you'd run out of jack. Plus you have to get a special bumper to accommodate it. Just to get a tire off the ground and take it off all I would need to carry is a cheep scissor jack you can find in any junk yard.
 
I think you have discovered your million dollar idea. Good Work, I like it, but I am wonering what could be done to integrate it onto the vehicle?

I dont run bumpers, just a winch cradle. Im sure fabbing up something to weld on the sides or up front would be an option.

Could the upper clevis just be longer? Or does it have to be in close proximity to the jack?
 
This is a neat idea but honestly I think you've developed a neat bumper idea that includes a jack accessory rather than a jack accessory many could use.

Maybe expand the "product line" and develop a similar jack adapter that fastens to the clevis mounting point standing off of a flat surface. Most bumpers (tube or plate) produced now have clevis mounting points incorporated so, rather than force a buyer to notch the bumper (plate only), make something that will hang on to the clevis mount that's already there.
 
Well I think you can get a 60" steel standard bar? Maybe this would be a reason to make longer SSBs for hi-lifts? Most people want a "special" bumper on their truck anyhow, so it might as well make lifting your truck safer as well.
 
I've used a 60" Hi Lift on a big truck before, there's no way I'd go with a taller version - that sheet got scary. :eek1:
 
no big deal on the noise, but I figured I should mention it if you planned on using the video to sell product. you'll want to clean up little things like that. ;)

This is a neat idea but honestly I think you've developed a neat bumper idea that includes a jack accessory rather than a jack accessory many could use.

Maybe expand the "product line" and develop a similar jack adapter that fastens to the clevis mounting point standing off of a flat surface. Most bumpers (tube or plate) produced now have clevis mounting points incorporated so, rather than force a buyer to notch the bumper (plate only), make something that will hang on to the clevis mount that's already there.

I'm with him. if you could find a way to make it work without having to cut a hole in the bumper, I think you'd really have something that could sell a lot. as is, I think you're selling bumpers, not jack accessories. of course that's not the worst thing in the world, you can charge more for bumpers. :thumb:
 
From what I can see, you have a clevis point above the bumper on each side. If so, how do you open the tailgate? Having an attachment in use while jacking that doesn't let you open the tailgate is fine, but if something sticks up all the time... There is very little gap between the top of the frame horns and the tailgate when it is open. I don't see a good way to make the top of the bumper lower than that, so nothing can stick up above the top.

Why does it have to be so complicated? Why not just bring two plates out from the back of the bumper (1 set on each side) spaced apart by the width of the Hi-lift? Slide the jack body in there and put two pins through. This can also serve as the clevis mount either through one of the aforementioned holes or a third larger one. These plates can pass all the way through the bumper face and sandwich the frame rail, doubling as the mounting features. The taller the bumper face and these plates, the further apart the holes can be and the greater the stability.
 
I think what you have is a great idea, as many have stated...


but you should laso make an adapter that attaches to a clevis mount.....many bumpers already have those...
 
I think it's a good idea, but it needs to be more versatile so you can sell more of them without needing a bumper with two big cuts in it.

Did you do a provisional patent app? Hopefully. Here is a statistic for you, 97% of all patents cost more money than they ever brought in. If you do a provisional patent app, it can give you some time to look for a licencing company or research the market, etc, before you spend the big dough.

Read some books on it to help you market it so you know what steps to take, pattenting shouldn't be the first thing you do after you get it working usually.
 
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