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I'd like your opinion on.....

I might be seeing this wrong but in most "jack" situations something isn't level. Like the bumper or the ground and your design requires the bumper and the jack to be perpendicular at all times? I don't use a high lift much, so maybe this won't be an issue. I like the strength and idea you got going here though. Good luck.
 
In almost every situation I have used a high lift in this woudn't work for me.

Basically cause its off road and there is a good chance that the slot in my bumper won't line up with somewhere I can jack off of

But then again I stopped using a highlift years ago, I use a small bottle jack anymore but I have a whole lotta jacking points on my off road truck.

So if you want to know what I think.

I would not buy one. But I bet a couple of my buddies would

Also what Trea said is right, off road your bottom jacking point might not line up very well with the notch.
 
nvrenuf said:
This is a neat idea but honestly I think you've developed a neat bumper idea that includes a jack accessory rather than a jack accessory many could use.

Maybe expand the "product line" and develop a similar jack adapter that fastens to the clevis mounting point standing off of a flat surface. Most bumpers (tube or plate) produced now have clevis mounting points incorporated so, rather than force a buyer to notch the bumper (plate only), make something that will hang on to the clevis mount that's already there.
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ZukiJohn said:
I think what you have is a great idea, as many have stated...


but you should laso make an adapter that attaches to a clevis mount.....many bumpers already have those...
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This is exactly what I was getting at earlier. With the amount of Jeeps out there with custom bumpers already plus the number of companies making custom bumpers for them and they all have clevis mounts. If you could make something like you have that works with all of those clevis mounts you could definitely have a market there. And that's not including everything else out there with clevis mounts. No one wants to spend another 4-600 on a bumper if they already have one.

I'm not crapping on your idea I just see a much bigger market if you make it work with something that already exists and is fairly universal.

In all honesty, Hi lifts are more for getting unstuck than for trail repairs.
 
TREA18 said:
I might be seeing this wrong but in most "jack" situations something isn't level. Like the bumper or the ground and your design requires the bumper and the jack to be perpendicular at all times? I don't use a high lift much, so maybe this won't be an issue. I like the strength and idea you got going here though. Good luck.
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I appreciate everyone's input so far. ARB already *made* something like this..

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They no longer make it but the purpose of my idea was to keep the jack upright and stabilize it. Even if you just used the hi-lift as a safety while using your other jack to lift the truck, you'd be ahead if something unforseen happened.

I was in Seattle a couple months ago and showed this to ARB's head tech guy. He liked it but I need a good video of it in action to send him. I better PM Wyomingboy cuz this would probably bolt right on his ride. ARB no longer makes the thing in the pic and something like that did cross my mind but it's not very stable(which is the point of my idea). I do realize that my bumper needs more R&D. I wanted it all to be one piece but once I drew it out, it had to be two pieces. I'm going to build an angled lower section( 30 degrees maybe) and make a roller clevis for my bumper when I get back to Riverton. Putting a pin through the lower to make it a jack stand is something I don't want to lose and it was actually stumbled upon once I designed the whole lower. Honestly, if you put a hole in one side of the lower, you could pin it to a clevis hole on a bumper; provided the clevis mount was on the front of said bumper(which isn't legal in some countries and why ARB puts them down low on their bumpers).

I did file a non-provisional utility patent on this thing and it's pending now. :woot:

I'm liking the forum and so glad I started posting....any more thoughts are welcomed.
 
I was finally able to bolt this to a local friend's blazer. Unfortunately he'd dropped his spring mounts down to get lift using the stock springs. That made it impossible to use the lower section as intended. Anyhow, I mounted the bumper and lifted the blazer. It worked just as I'd imagined it would.

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I plan to make the trip back to Riverton in Feb and put the cab/front clip back on my truck so I can get a good demonstration video made.
 
One thing to keep in mind, while this captures the high-lift and prevents it from slipping out or sliding off the bumper, it could potentially make the jack fail if used improperly. Because the high-lift jack was not designed to withstand a side load or a bending force, and this could create one pretty easy. If the person just uses it as a safety device and still only uses the jack verticallay where the vehicle won't move when jacking, then it should be fine, but I see some people expanding the capabilities of the jack with this, causing the jack to bend/break and fail.
 
You bring up a good and valid point. Like I said earlier, this is just a prototype and could use some serious R&D. I have another version that will mount to a receiver hitch that I haven't made a prototype for yet. I would imagine that this may only be ideal for smaller/lighter vehicles like jeeps or samurais.

Even if it was just a secondary safety precaution, I'm sure it could save a life, a limb, or both.
 
That wab fab stuff looks pretty stout! I like the 'Not for use at the mall' comment...Cool. Damn I need to get my truck up and running! :) Not for use at the mall
 
folkenheath said:
One thing to keep in mind, while this captures the high-lift and prevents it from slipping out or sliding off the bumper, it could potentially make the jack fail if used improperly. Because the high-lift jack was not designed to withstand a side load or a bending force, and this could create one pretty easy. If the person just uses it as a safety device and still only uses the jack verticallay where the vehicle won't move when jacking, then it should be fine, but I see some people expanding the capabilities of the jack with this, causing the jack to bend/break and fail.
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I wonder if the "extreme"(hate that word) hi-lift mentioned on the wab-fab site is anything special? Hopefully it would stand up to more of a load than a standard one. The Steel Standard Bar of my hi-lift is pretty ductile! I wouldn't want to break it though...
 
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