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IFS to SA w no lift.

1-tonmudder

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My old 3+3 has seen better days and it needs more work than its worth so Im lookin to build me another work truck.I lookin to buy a 90's model 4 door and do a SAS on it.The problem Im having is that all the kits Ive found have lift built into them and I don't want any lift.When loading axles and transfer cases,or other heavy junk,I don't wanna have to deal w the extra height not to mention the extra expense of larger tires and any reduction in tow capacity. So does such a kit exist or am I SOL????
 
SOL... I asked the same question and it doesn't exist:doah: the lowest ive seen is like 4" for early 90's stuff.
 
few years ago I seen a guy on pirate use dodge 4 link stuff for little less lift.

the frame design and diff to oil pan area is the 2 killers for needing the lift to put a solid axle under them .

you might get by with the kit and stock or 2" springs and heavy modify the front engine crossmember .

most kits are 3" in the brackets alone .
 
shady said:
SOL... I asked the same question and it doesn't exist:doah: the lowest ive seen is like 4" for early 90's stuff.
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sweetk30 said:
few years ago I seen a guy on pirate use dodge 4 link stuff for little less lift.

the frame design and diff to oil pan area is the 2 killers for needing the lift to put a solid axle under them .

you might get by with the kit and stock or 2" springs and heavy modify the front engine crossmember .

most kits are 3" in the brackets alone .
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That's what I was afraid of.I might just have to find another body and start over.

sweetk30 said:
few years ago I seen a guy on pirate use dodge 4 link stuff for little less lift.

the frame design and diff to oil pan area is the 2 killers for needing the lift to put a solid axle under them .

you might get by with the kit and stock or 2" springs and heavy modify the front engine crossmember .

most kits are 3" in the brackets alone .
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I put your parts in the mail today by the way.
 
I remember seeing a guy on pirate with a mid 90's truck he sas'd and it looked like it was stock IFS ride height. The only thing I remember about it is he used a 10-bolt front, but lengthened the passenger side tube and made it a driver drop. I want to say he used stock 47" front springs, but can't remember if he made his own brackets or if it was a kit.
 
I'm pretty positive it could be custom done.... but it would be a challenge. If I had a place to do it I'd have gone that route a while ago...
 
Its possible but no.one makes a kit off the shelf. You.can get it down to about 2in of lift and it will basically sit like a newer HD truck.
 
what about a leaf sprung hd truck w a 4wd axle??? What axle would I use,a 78/79 HP 60 or a 84-92 ish HP 60??? Theres one runnin around town that's been a forest service truck but I cant ever find it parked to check it out.
 
Im not sure what the perch width is on the HD straight axle 2wd trucks. I have seen front ends thrown in them so Id be willing to bet they probably match an axle or close. But those things sit quite tall from the factory so just consider that when you say "no lift" everything is kind of relative.
 
1991-2002 3500HD 2wd front spring spacing is 33.25" (about the same as a Dodge). They sit about 2" taller than a regular 3500 and that is with a drop axle. Put a straight axle in it and it will sit about 5" or 6" taller than that. I have 2 that are spring under and they are still probably at least 6" taller than a regular 3500. They also have a 10 on 7.25" wheel bolt pattern.
 
About 3" of lift total is pretty much the minimum, the frames don't curve up over the axle like the older factory solid axle trucks did.

We've talked over options to make brackets that use a tension shackle at the back and even spring under to get the ride height down, but I'm not sure there's even an inch to be gained there and that's even with only a couple inches of bump travel. 3" of lift over stock is the realistic minimum.
 
I wish I would have gotten some pics of 2 SAS'd trucks that used to be around here. One was a 2wd that was converted, 1/2t with a pass 44 up front. Used stock springs, and think a small block to level it. I think it was on 33s, but not sure. IMO stance was absolutely sweet looking. Truck was rotted to death, ended up in the junkyard.


2nd was done totally different that any SAS I've seen. It was a 94 Tahoe, got smacked hard in the front and frame was bent. The frame was cut where the front half and center frame comes together. The front half of a 90 Blazer was grafted into the stock 94 frame. Had to fab up body mounts under fire wall, core support mounts were identical. The frame was pie'd to match the different widths, but was the lowest SAS I've seen. It was a plow truck, so didn't really car what it looked like but is street legal and I think still around on the road. It sat higher in the front, but was never leveled. Also looked goofy cause it had 235/75/15s on it...
 
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