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Ignition turns over with out Key

Justin Fleming

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What would the cause be for the ignition to turn over with out a key. I just got this truck so time to fix all the gremlins...I will add that I just had the entire steering wheel apart to fix the nasty wobble it had. I don't know if I created the ignition turning with out a key issue or if it was already existing....
 
Are you sure your turning it to lock when you shut it off? If not, its the same as turning it on and taking the key out.
 
what do you mean ignition turning over. The key cylinder or the truck triing to start? if is the key cylinder iirc theres a long set screw that holds the cylinder in place and limits the its movement i belive
 
the actual key cylinder, basically I can start the car with out a key. Thus if I leave the truck unlocked someone could just jump in and start it up
 
Sounds like it's time for a new key cylinder. It's just worn out...not much you can do to fix it without replacing. Just think of how many 1000's of times that key has been in/out/turned.

I've got one truck that I don't even have keys for, the cylinder is worn out and I never lock it. And another one that will only lock if you turn it back all the way, can pull the key out once you get the lock plate unlocked or with it in the forward position.
 
Go on and replace the key switch. A year ago mine got stuck in the run position and the switch was 8 dollars and came with 2 keys, was surprisingly easy to install too.
 
Fords are super easy to pull the cylinder out. Many years ago, my father's new Lincoln town car came with the same key as my older Ford truck from the factory.

That was so handy, I pulled all the cylinders out of all the Ford trucks and cars and keyed them all alike.
If one of us needed to borrow the other's vehicle or move it out of the way, no problem.

A few years after that, my father's truck started being hard to turn with his key. To get him going until I could buy a new cylinder, I swapped his cylinder with my truck's cylinder.
To make sure I did not have a problem, I popped the little cover off his and poured out all the tumblers before putting it in my truck.

Since it did not need a key after that, I often just cranked it without one, using the "ears" on the cylinder.
That turned out to be so handy, I never replaced it. The doors still lock, and anyone looking in and not seeing a key would not think it could be cranked without it.

Last year, due to poor lubrication of the sliding parts in the column, the little actuator on the end of the cylinder broke.
I bought a new cylinder, and promptly poured out the pins so it works with no key also.......

I just like it.
 
Go on and replace the key switch. A year ago mine got stuck in the run position and the switch was 8 dollars and came with 2 keys, was surprisingly easy to install too.

I did the same replacement - cheap and easy. No need to mess with the door keys, either. For a long time I could pull the key out with it running, but eventually it got to where no key was required anymore and I didn't think that was a good situation for a convertible.
 
Fords are super easy to pull the cylinder out. Many years ago, my father's new Lincoln town car came with the same key as my older Ford truck from the factory.

That was so handy, I pulled all the cylinders out of all the Ford trucks and cars and keyed them all alike.
If one of us needed to borrow the other's vehicle or move it out of the way, no problem.

A few years after that, my father's truck started being hard to turn with his key. To get him going until I could buy a new cylinder, I swapped his cylinder with my truck's cylinder.
To make sure I did not have a problem, I popped the little cover off his and poured out all the tumblers before putting it in my truck.

Since it did not need a key after that, I often just cranked it without one, using the "ears" on the cylinder.
That turned out to be so handy, I never replaced it. The doors still lock, and anyone looking in and not seeing a key would not think it could be cranked without it.

Last year, due to poor lubrication of the sliding parts in the column, the little actuator on the end of the cylinder broke.
I bought a new cylinder, and promptly poured out the pins so it works with no key also.......

I just like it.


This about sums up how I feel about my trucks with the loose ignitions in them....it's just real convenient. If they were my daily drivers I may be more motivated to fix them (ok...maybe not).

In all reality...if someone wants to drive off if one of these trucks without having keys for it, it's not hard. If the ignition isn't already loose, it takes what, maybe 10minutes to change the cylinder (if that) and you can drive away looking legit. Or just pull it out and turn with some pliers.
 
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