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[imiceman44]

Are you a master automotive transmission specialist? Do you really know everything about everything? You sure seem to think you do sometimes.

There are very good, very fast mechanics around. I watched with my own eyes. One guy in the Allison dept. Where I used to work at the Detroit dealer. Bring his personal '96ish 1/2ton Chevy. In the shop after work at 5pm. I was on the afternoon shift till 9pm. He pulled the tranny out of the truck, overhauled it, reinstalled it, and drove home when we closed at 9pm.

you just said 4 hours, that is closer to my estimate since it also includes taking it out and putting it back in.
I am not saying it can't be done in 45 minutes, but how good of a job and how clean is what I am talking about.
I am not saying I know it all, but I have been around enough to know that a quality job can't be had that fast, unless you are cutting corners, or just fixing what you see is bad, but to do a full rebuild from start to finish in 45 minutes...

 

[imiceman44]

To clarify:
So the guy takes it appart in 15 minutes, I agree that's very close to what I have seen... Does he inspect anything in the process? does he inspect afterwards? I mean if all he is reusing is the shell, then yes, throw the shell in the parts cleaner, a quick 5 minutes inspection and start throwing new parts in it and you'll be done in no time, but where is the inspection of shafts, gears, all the reusable parts.
As I said, for a quality job, you'll need a little more than that.
But with these days most just rely on a warranty and say if the guy brings it back we'll deal with it, most don't come back.

Sorry Issam my buddy that does transmissions had my 700 torn down to its bare guts in about 15 minutes. He does transmissions every day. To clean just throw em in the fancy heated parts washer, another 5 minutes.

Shoot I can tear down a Th 350 in about 30 minutes have it sparkling clean in another 30.

For that price I would skip the so called rebuilt trans and get one I know to be solid, sounds like he is using good parts, probably already has some of the parts from other transmissions he has taken apart.

It would take me forever to put a 700 back together but a guy who knows them inside and out can do it very quickly.

 

[mrdrinksalil]

Where are you in GA? I could do it but it wont be no 2hours and probably around $300 in labor (basic rebuild kit is 100 and cost goes up from there depending on performance parts and upgrades). It would take me the whole day at least because EVERYTHING would get checked. To properly clean one, check for cracks in the housing, and measure every damn clearence there is to measure going back together takes some time. And then there's the possibility of not having all the correct size shims and such to do it right. Not to mention a GOOD transmission shop is gonna have a trans dyno and check the pressures before it even leaves the shop. It's kinda like an engine build. Anybody can throw some new piston and rings in there but if you wanna do it right there is a LOT involved. But then again there's fixed to work and built to perform. Two different things entirely.

 

[imiceman44]

Thank you.

Where are you in GA? I could do it but it wont be no 2hours and probably around $300 in labor (basic rebuild kit is 100 and cost goes up from there depending on performance parts and upgrades). It would take me the whole day at least because EVERYTHING would get checked. To properly clean one, check for cracks in the housing, and measure every damn clearence there is to measure going back together takes some time. And then there's the possibility of not having all the correct size shims and such to do it right. Not to mention a GOOD transmission shop is gonna have a trans dyno and check the pressures before it even leaves the shop. It's kinda like an engine build. Anybody can throw some new piston and rings in there but if you wanna do it right there is a LOT involved. But then again there's fixed to work and built to perform. Two different things entirely.

 

[496truck]

I am surprised no one has said to check the t-case. Shift forks and shift pads wear out, it can slip out of gear under load, then it will just grind away till (if) you can get it back into a gear. And after that it may or may not stay in that gear. I'm only saying this cause I've been there before.

Hate to see someone spend the money on a trans just to find out it was the t-case the whole time.

 

[TSewell]

I am surprised no one has said to check the t-case. Shift forks and shift pads wear out, it can slip out of gear under load, then it will just grind away till (if) you can get it back into a gear. And after that it may or may not stay in that gear. I'm only saying this cause I've been there before.

Hate to see someone spend the money on a trans just to find out it was the t-case the whole time.

Interesting...Would it matter if i never used 4 wheel drive the whole day, or when this happend?

 

[496truck]

I was just driving down the street (nicely paved road, no bumps at all) when it just started grinding away with no power to the wheels. I coasted into a parking lot, shut it down, fiddled with the t-case shifter a bit and got it back into gear. Made it home that night but didn't make it out of the driveway the next day.

The truck was my daily driver at the time so I didn't have time to tear it down, figure out the problem, order parts, etc. I just removed it, brought it to a local trans shop that I know, paid the bill and had it back next day, installed after dinner that night. He knew exactly what it was from the symptoms, new updated shift forks and a complete rebuild later it works great.

 

[TSewell]

The transfer case is supposed to be new, but has never gone into 4hi, only 4lo. I wonder if this is my problem. Would that cause the metal shavings in the pan?

 

[blazinzuk]

The transfer case is supposed to be new, but has never gone into 4hi, only 4lo. I wonder if this is my problem. Would that cause the metal shavings in the pan?

The metal shavings in the pan are from the transmissions. Now lets get technical, those aren't shavings those are chunks (I realize very technical terms ) If its not your transmission it will be soon.

 

[TSewell]

Now lets get technical, those aren't shavings those are chunks

 

[DEMON44]

I cal bull****.
There is no way, even if you know the tranny like th eback of your hand, you need about 2 hours min, for taking appart and cleaning, and then another 2 for putting it together.
As for rebuild kits, yeah $100-150 for basic kit.

Bull****, you did not say your estimates included r&r the tranny. Don't change your story.

 

[DEMON44]

And for the record, I never said that is what a retail tranny shop would or should do. I said that its possible, to do it fast and good. Like my bud there did his own. That's his daily driver. Still driving it on his overhaul. And he's been doing trannies automotive and HD Allison for 25 years. That's all he's ever done.

 

[TheBeast_88K5]

The transfer case is supposed to be new, but has never gone into 4hi, only 4lo. I wonder if this is my problem. Would that cause the metal shavings in the pan?

Any of these things....

 

[y5mgisi]

Im thinking its bits of a sprag clutch. Like item 156.