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It Appears Most Aftermarket 4x6 LED headlights "Need Modification" To Fit

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It Appears Most Aftermarket 4x6 LED headlights "Need Significant Modification" To Fit

This is a buyer beware for would be purchasers of 4x6 LED Headlights, that came standard on many cars & trucks in the 1980's including quad headlight K5 Blazers, C10's and 82-92 3rd Gen Camaros for example.

I can't believe these guys get away with saying they're either plug & play, no modification required or little or no modification required and the only hint of possible modification is with respect to electrical pins...

Do not believe these lying' pos's…

Unless they have a video of the headlights they're selling actually being installed on your specific vehicle, make, model & year or one you can cross reference over to using the same exact headlights and headlight buckets move on...

Unless you're prepared to build 1-off headlight buckets or grind 1/4" to 1/2" of material off the back of the aluminum headlight housing itself to actually fit in the factory headlight bucket...

Or they have a 100% money back quarantine and they will send you a prepaid return shipping label...

Little or no modification my fricken eye...

Not remotely close to as advertised or described...

ebay buyer beware of 4x6 LED Headlights...
internet buyer beware of 4x6 LED Headlights...

AND if significant modification required does not bother you, it's also worth noting you'll be hard pressed to find any not made in CHINA OR TAIWAN :-(

Guys like these give legit aftermarket manufacturers a bad name...
 
I’m not sure what your problem is with the lights. I’ve got 4 4x6 LED lights that installed no problem. They’re just some plain ole’ Chinese specials from Amazon. I had to rearrange the pins in the harness to get the brights to function as I wanted, but they were a direct bolt in part. They’ve been in for two years and are bright AF.
 
Abusfullofnuns said:
I’m not sure what your problem is with the lights. I’ve got 4 4x6 LED lights that installed no problem. They’re just some plain ole’ Chinese specials from Amazon. I had to rearrange the pins in the harness to get the brights to function as I wanted, but they were a direct bolt in part. They’ve been in for two years and are bright AF.
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They will not fit my headlight buckets on my 82 k5 blazer or my headlight buckets on my 89 3rd gen Camaro which use same headlights, and buckets.

No modification of headlight bucket will allow them to fit.

The only two solutions I see are fabricating 4 one-off headlight buckets or grinding about 1/4 to 1/2 inch off of backside of aluminum headlight housings.

Here's a Amazon Review I just found; saying the same thing I am...
4x6 LED projector, DOES NOT fit H4656/H4651 buckets or wiring:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-...iewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B077TTY669#R2CLL1H08WVIMJ
 
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Bohemian said:
They will not fit my headlight buckets on my 82 k5 blazer or my headlight buckets on my 89 3rd gen Camaro which use same headlights, and buckets.

No modification of headlight bucket will allow them to fit.

The only two solutions I see are fabricating 4 one-off headlight buckets or grinding about 1/4 to 1/2 inch off of backside of aluminum headlight housings.

Here's a Amazon Review I just found; saying the same thing I am...
4x6 LED projector, DOES NOT fit H4656/H4651 buckets or wiring:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-...iewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B077TTY669#R2CLL1H08WVIMJ
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Here's another unhappy Amazon Customer with same 4x6 LED fitment problem...
Not as expected:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-...ef=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00Z8OPTO0

looks like you won the lottery on your set...
 
That’s why you always read the reviews before you buy on Amazon. And I don’t mean the good reviews, I mean to sort them by 1 & 2 star ratings and read those to see what problems others have had.
 
I drive a couple hours in the dark every day going to and from work so I can appreciate good lights. My main gripe is so many of these cheap crap ass Chinese lights are like high beam coming at you. Same thing with putting HID bulbs in halogen housings. They may be nice when you are sitting behind them but blind oncoming traffic. I guess you will be able to get their plate number just before they hit you head on because they are blinded and drift into your lane. Do yourself (and someone else) a favor and buy good lights, not the cheapest thing you can find on E-Bay/Amazon.
 
The flip side is running off the road myself due to not being able to see. I adjusted the angles on mine at the same time as install, and I haven’t had one person flash me with my low beams on. High beams would most definitely blind other drivers. Can’t comment on HIDs retrofitted to non projector housings.

I hear the same comments on being blinded from my older employees. I wonder if there is some sort of degeneration of eyesight that makes older folks more prone to headlight issues.
 
Bohemian said:
Thanks I'll take a look, I had a really hard time trying to find a recommendation like yours and I didn't find the bad reviews until today.
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i like mine so much i got a 2nd set for my other truck . they just work good and still no flash from other motorist drivers .
 
Abusfullofnuns said:
The flip side is running off the road myself due to not being able to see. I adjusted the angles on mine at the same time as install, and I haven’t had one person flash me with my low beams on. High beams would most definitely blind other drivers. Can’t comment on HIDs retrofitted to non projector housings.

I hear the same comments on being blinded from my older employees. I wonder if there is some sort of degeneration of eyesight that makes older folks more prone to headlight issues.
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Lots of people are getting to where they don't flash their lights at others because there are too many on the road with poor light control! With what has been happening with the aftermarket stuff and OEM lights, it seems very prevalent. There are TOO many vehicles that are blinding others, and leveling kits for late model trucks get installed a lot, no headlight adjustment gets done. The DOT specification also isn't as concerned about oncoming traffic when you compare to European guidelines.

And yes, older eyes are more sensitive to the light glare. I have already noticed it myself. My wife has never been comfortable with it since she was younger. She has astigmatism.
 
6872xtc said:
Lots of people are getting to where they don't flash their lights at others because there are too many on the road with poor light control! With what has been happening with the aftermarket stuff and OEM lights, it seems very prevalent. There are TOO many vehicles that are blinding others, and leveling kits for late model trucks get installed a lot, no headlight adjustment gets done. The DOT specification also isn't as concerned about oncoming traffic when you compare to European guidelines.

And yes, older eyes are more sensitive to the light glare. I have already noticed it myself. My wife has never been comfortable with it since she was younger. She has astigmatism.
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x2 on all this stuff . i also have quit flashing a lot of stuff unless its super bad . and i try not to drive as much at night for the fact of these stupid lights the D.O.T is letting the factory put on the road . . . . newer f-series trucks with 4 on at 1 time = FU*K YOU if you want to come at me and see still .
 
I have seen jeeps and early 2000s fords running around with offroad led lights on, and no one flashes them. I doubt that it would help anyway.
 
sweetk30 said:
newer f-series trucks with 4 on at 1 time
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I have to agree on this. And then their fog lights also come on so there are 6 lights on up front. I want so bad to get some big ol' Rigid brighter than the sun, thaw the road out in front of you type of lights and melt their corneas out of their eyes but that's not me. I just give a high flash and drive on. Maybe if they get enough flashes they will realize their lights are crap. :smile:
 
Bohemian said:
ebay buyer beware of 4x6 LED Headlights...
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You DO know that per eBay rules, if what is sold is not as described, it is the SELLERS responsibility to cover return shipping costs, right? They can either give you the product, or pay for the return shipping.

You do also know that it is exceptionally cheap for the chinese to mail goods into the US, but exceptionally cost prohibitive to send things to china, right? I'm not saying rip them off, but if there are sellers misleading you, make them eat the shipping. In the case of the chinese, it's usually not worth the return shipping cost. Perhaps if they lose enough money, they will learn to not mislead buyers. I realized awhile back that many of the sellers simply bank on peoples ignorance when it comes to products being as advertised.
 
dyeager535 said:
You DO know that per eBay rules, if what is sold is not as described, it is the SELLERS responsibility to cover return shipping costs, right? They can either give you the product, or pay for the return shipping.

You do also know that it is exceptionally cheap for the chinese to mail goods into the US, but exceptionally cost prohibitive to send things to china, right? I'm not saying rip them off, but if there are sellers misleading you, make them eat the shipping. In the case of the chinese, it's usually not worth the return shipping cost. Perhaps if they lose enough money, they will learn to not mislead buyers. I realized awhile back that many of the sellers simply bank on peoples ignorance when it comes to products being as advertised.
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Exactly
 
I am forced to stay off the roads after dark unless I feel like risking a crash,after I hit 50, I got cataracts and had to have both eyes operated on to remove them,and had artificial prescription lenses put in my eyes..pisses me off this time of the year ,with it getting dark at 4 pm..

--for about 2 years after I could see great,but both eyes developed a problem, which was corrected by a quick zap of a laser in the doctors office,said "we can only do this once though"--then I had near perfect vision..
But at night,bright lights would blind the hell out of me still,and I got by with wearing those yellow tinted "night vision" glasses,my vision was still clear and sharp then..

--now both eyes have such large floaters ,I am even having trouble driving in daylight,and doing just about anything else now..wrenching,reading,etc,is a frustrating experience when you cant focus and have a "cloud" floating around in both eyes..

I figure I'll be blind in another year or so if this gets any worse,I cant even use the computer for long or watch TV without my eyes starting to "flash"...night driving SUCKS with all the new HID headlights and morons with light bars,fog lamps,etc,burning your retinas ..

Maybe I could see better at night if I put some super-duper headlights on MY vehicle..my current 1980's halogens are a joke compared to a new vehicles headlamps,even leaving my high beams on hardly affects anyone coming at me,they don't flash their lights at me very often-(and if they do I'm blind for awhile,like looking at a flashbulb going off)..-if my truck had only 2 headlamps instead of 4,most people wouldn't even know I had my high beams on probably..

I plan to put one of those rubber cased utility lamps on my truck's headache rack facing the rear, for a back up/cargo light--getting sick of ending up scraping the retaining wall trying to back in my driveway after dark,its pitch black in my yard,and the stock back up lamps are useless--I have to hold the shifter in reverse
just right to keep them on ,and they are dim as candles..
It's a lot easier for me to see at night if there is snow on the ground..
 
diesel4me said:
Maybe I could see better at night if I put some super-duper headlights on MY vehicle..my current 1980's halogens are a joke compared to a new vehicles headlamps,even leaving my high beams on hardly affects anyone coming at me,they don't flash their lights at me very often-(and if they do I'm blind for awhile,like looking at a flashbulb going off)..-if my truck had only 2 headlamps instead of 4,most people wouldn't even know I had my high beams on probably..
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The things we don't have to deal with when we are younger...

Even my 2004 car had "terrible" headlights compared to my 2015. I've said it before, the high beams do nothing to help me drive, they simply illuminate the sides of the road better, and a bit higher up....on flat ground there is zero difference directly in front of the car with high or low beams, due to the "cut off line" of the lights. I know it's not me, mom just replaced her 2001 car with a 2013 with the "good" headlights, and where she would intentionally avoid driving at night before, she now drives with confidence.

I played around with aiming the halogens on the K5 this year (quad headlight), both high and low beams, trying to get a good pattern, proper distance, etc, and they just aren't capable of providing adequate light to be driving at higher speeds in the dark, with my eyes, yet the car can. The high end LED's would be great, it's just unfortunate really good ones are multiple hundreds of dollars, or I would have converted already.
 
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