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Just picked up a crew cab.. Let the repairs begin...

This pic:
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Shows the rear frame horn has NOT been cut. The factory holes are all there. If you notice that tiny blue triangle piece at the top middle, that appears to be the end of the bed, the flat part at the very end of the bed.

Now look at the distance from that triangle to the end of the frame horn. Definitely has not been cut. If this was a short bed frame, the end of the horn would be under that triangle.
 
As sweetk30 said, "possible 2wd to 4x4 frame splice.", I'm beginning to wonder the same thing.

But first, get the VIN off this truck and post it up here. Those numbers and letters will help us decipher what exactly you've got on your hands.
 
The cab 1GBHR33J2JJ123040
The frame 1GCHK34W2ES178095
I don't have my book with me but the R3 in the top number shows an '87 to '91 year and 2 wheel drive.

The bottom VIN reading K3 designates the 1 ton 4x4 between '81 to '86.

I need my book to decode the rest of the numbers. They will tell you the body style, engine size, plant the truck was made at, etc.
 
So if the frame is a one ton I wonder why the cut it twice?:dunno: At least it is a one ton frame that make me feel a little better. The cab I believe was on a state truck. Orange paint showing through in the door jabs and interior.

I had sometime to play with it today. The truck drives good and straight and doesn't dog track. I know it is a hodge podge of parts but the important things seem to be ok.
 
Don't know what to tell you on the double cut. Except wait for more daylight to get better pics.
 
may not have been a true crew cab long bed in the begining, may have been a standered cab daully with a 14 ft frame. may be attaully three different trucks in the beganing and cut chopped and re welded in to a one 3/4 ton 4x4 crew with a one ton frame.

just an idea. :confused: :whistle:

but ether way to dam much work to get the frame 100% strait.
 
As I quoted above, I need my decoding book. Those VIN's would tell us what we need to know.
 
i have the vins decode, but bascly the cab is an 88, 2wd, 1 ton, crew cab, 6.2 diesel, assy. plant was janesville, WI, and the frame is a 84, 4wd, 1 ton, crew cab, 454 bb, assy. plant was st.louis, MO. both chevys made in the us not gmc or canadan. last 6 of each vin is the serael number.
 
Where do you guys find the # on the frame???
If memory serves me right, on the passenger side, top of the rail, under the floor board area.

Theres also bigger visible numbers on the side of the rail, also on the passenger side I believe.

Its been too long since I've messed around with these trucks. I think I'm getting old. :doah:
 
If memory serves me right, on the passenger side, top of the rail, under the floor board area.

Theres also bigger visible numbers on the side of the rail, also on the passenger side I believe.

Its been too long since I've messed around with these trucks. I think I'm getting old. :doah:

Most have a partial vin on the side with production dates but I have found the VIN under one of the body mounts.
Anyway different years have different locations, look for it you will find it.
I have had some on passenger side, some on the driver side.
 
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this throws me off. why does it have such an offset shackle flip? a 1 ton frame with a 3/4 ton axle?
dont 1 ton rear spring brackets sit really close to the frame?
why would you need a 3rd axle if you are choppin up 2x 1 tons?
idk. its just sumthin i noticed

i will go look at my v30 in a minute to check i out.
 
I'm not sure but I am guessing instead of converting the DRW axles to SRW they took the easy road and threw in some 3/4 ton axles. I sure wish they would have stuck with the one tons it would save me the trouble.:rolleyes:
 
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this throws me off. why does it have such an offset shackle flip? a 1 ton frame with a 3/4 ton axle?
dont 1 ton rear spring brackets sit really close to the frame?
why would you need a 3rd axle if you are choppin up 2x 1 tons?
idk. its just sumthin i noticed

i will go look at my v30 in a minute to check i out.
That shackle flip looks like the ORD 2" or 2.5" flip kit. Thats why it looks different. They do make them for 1 tons.
 
I'm not sure but I am guessing instead of converting the DRW axles to SRW they took the easy road and threw in some 3/4 ton axles. I sure wish they would have stuck with the one tons it would save me the trouble.:rolleyes:
Take a picture of your drum brakes. We can tell by looking at them whether they are 3/4 or 1 ton size.
 
View attachment 111699

this throws me off. why does it have such an offset shackle flip? a 1 ton frame with a 3/4 ton axle?
dont 1 ton rear spring brackets sit really close to the frame?
why would you need a 3rd axle if you are choppin up 2x 1 tons?
idk. its just sumthin i noticed

i will go look at my v30 in a minute to check i out.
Forgot to mention that a 1 ton rear spring hangers and the axle perches are only in 1" on both sides than a standard 3/4 ton.

40.5" perch width for a 1 ton.
42.5" perch for the 3/4 ton.
 
That shackle flip looks like the ORD 2" or 2.5" flip kit. Thats why it looks different. They do make them for 1 tons.

i know they make one. thats what i need.
i just measured my truck, and the inside of the spring is only 1-5/8" from the frame and in that picture it looks more like 3". maybe its just the picture, but it looks funny.
i agree with crawdaddy, that a 3/4 ton axle was prob easier to deal with than a drw axle.
 

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