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rbk587

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ok guys got new pickup coil installed put back together she fired right off......ran like a top for bout three minutes and jus shut down.im back to no fire at the plugs,i have replaced ignition coil,cap,rotor and pickup coil also check fuses any suggestions before i go mad......thanks for any input:waytogo:
 
I burnt 2 ICM's, in one year. :whistle:

I know there's another Brother on here, that went through (3) Delco ICM's in short order.

It happens.
Dielectric grease is very important.
I use "heat sink" grease.
 
Didn't read that, or did and forgot it. I've never actually seen one go bad either, but I have seen a few that did not work.

Do a search on ignition modules here, and it should take a while to read all the results.
If you do just a search on them in titles, you will find a few. Do a search on them in entire posts, and you have an afternoon's worth of reading.

I suspect that its close to 50% of the folks here who carry one as a spare.

I don't, of course. But then, I run a Ford...............:D
 
The module is under the rotor, and you do not use "die-electric grease"! You should have a little tube of white paste that comes with module. Clean area were module goes and then put a even layer under new module for a heat barrier and your good to go.
If the module does not come with any, they sell it at radio shack
 
The module is under the rotor, and you do not use "die-electric grease"! You should have a little tube of white paste that comes with module. Clean area were module goes and then put a even layer under new module for a heat barrier and your good to go.
If the module does not come with any, they sell it at radio shack

Try telling that to the manufacturers that supply the dielectric grease with the new module. :doah:
 
Module

Is the module what the pickup coil and two connectors on side of distributor plugs into?
 
I thought I read Eagle Mark say that they very rarely go bad and in fact he has never seen one go bad

The ignition module goes bad ALOT on GM vehicles, I keep a spare because of it. I've probably had to replace about 8 of them so far on various GM vehicles i've owned.
 
The ignition module goes bad ALOT on GM vehicles, I keep a spare because of it. I've probably had to replace about 8 of them so far on various GM vehicles i've owned.

I fixed a truck, on the side of the freeway, with my spare ICM.

The owner described all the symptoms of a bad ICM.
I took his icm out, replaced it with my known good, spare.
Fired right up.

Spare one is a good idea.:thumb:
A better idea, is to make sure the new spare actually works, before you're depending on it.
 
OK, let the electronics guy try to clean this up. I've been meaning to get around to this for a while, but kept putting it off.
Got a little pain thing going on, so probably not the best time, but what the heck.

Dielectric anything is electrically non-conductive. It also usually refers to its ability to store an electrostatic charge, but that is not important for this.
Dielectric grease is usually used where lubrication that will not conduct electricity is necessary.
Spark plug boots is the most common.

Heat sink grease or compound is thermally conductive. It conducts heat really well.
It is used between two objects that need to pass heat between them.

In most cases, having the objects actually touch firmly is the best.

But, since most surfaces are not perfectly smooth, a thin film of heat sink compound will fill the gaps that would otherwise be filled with poorly conducting air.

Here is where the trouble comes in.

A dielectric grease should not conduct electricity. It may or may not conduct heat well.
A heat sink compound should conduct heat well, it may or may not conduct electricity.

Most heat sink compounds will not conduct electricity, since they are often used on electronic components.
But, since their use is for heat transfer, you can't be sure.

Silicone grease is an excellent dielectric grease. And is the basis of many heat sink compounds.
Additional materials are added to increase heat transfer. Titanium dioxide is one of them, and is a nonconductor, so the resulting heat sink compound is a good dielectric grease.

But,some companies use colloidal silver, which can cause it to be conductive at higher voltages.

The big problem is that some companies and many people use the two terms interchangeably.

With a distributor module, the primary need is for removing heat. So, you want to be sure what you use is a heat sink compound.
But, since there is high voltage jumping around, dielectric properties are good too.

What to use? Well, if you do not have a known good alternative, use what came with the module.
Personally, since I do lots of electronics work, I have access to stuff that is probably better than what comes from discount auto houses.
But, my stuff has its heat transfer properties AND its dielectric properties listed, so I know what I am dealing with.

The important thing is to not put it on too thick. Anywhere the surfaces can touch, you want them touching with no compound between them. Heat sink compound cannot increase the transfer of two clean surfaces actually touching, it can only break even or usually make it worse.

But it must fill any gaps to keep out the air.

So, heat sink compound may be dielectric or not, dielectric may be heat sinking or not, or either one can be both.

See how simple it is.................
 

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