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Legit Practise?

Maybe ebay isn't able to offer buyer protection in another country. Germany has all kinds of crazy laws that might prevent that kinda thing.

In any case, if you pay through paypal, you can dispute the charges if for some reason he doesn't deliver. I've done it and although it's not an instant refund, I did get my money back.
 
bp71k5 said:
Maybe ebay isn't able to offer buyer protection in another country. Germany has all kinds of crazy laws that might prevent that kinda thing.

In any case, if you pay through paypal, you can dispute the charges if for some reason he doesn't deliver. I've done it and although it's not an instant refund, I did get my money back.
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Thanks for letting me know, I was going to look into that. I'm also going to call my credit card company and see what their policy is.
 
Sounds like a scammer! What is his feed back? If he didn't say in the listing that there would be any additional cost then I would tell him you aren't paying the additional cost or you will give negative feedback. If he gives you to much crap then report him to ebay! I think there is a way to moderate feedback in situations like this but I quit using ebay a long time ago. If you really want the part then I would say "bite the bullet" but sounds real fishy to me! Especially being overseas.
 
One thing to keep in mind as well is that E-bay is changing their feedback policy for buyers. I am not sure when it goes into effect, but it prevents sellers from leaving negative feedback on buyers. You can still leave negative about a seller, but they cannot retaliate with negative for you.
 
Make sure you get protection from the credit card. The eBay/PayPal protection is pretty much about protecting sellers, not buyers. You can only get money back through PayPal if that seller still has money in their PayPal account. Many deadbeat sellers just close out their account and PayPal does not go any further. Even if they do have the money and PayPal does decide in your favor, it can take months, which is plenty of time for a seller to disappear.

I'm not trying to scare anybody. I'm just pointing out that there are real risks with any eBay transaction. Most of their talk about "protection" is just talk.
 
Blue85 said:
The eBay/PayPal protection is pretty much about protecting sellers, not buyers. You can only get money back through PayPal if that seller still has money in their PayPal account. Many deadbeat sellers just close out their account and PayPal does not go any further. Even if they do have the money and PayPal does decide in your favor, it can take months, which is plenty of time for a seller to disappear.

I'm not trying to scare anybody. I'm just pointing out that there are real risks with any eBay transaction. Most of their talk about "protection" is just talk.
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X2 :mad:
 
lectric80 said:
One thing to keep in mind as well is that E-bay is changing their feedback policy for buyers. I am not sure when it goes into effect, but it prevents sellers from leaving negative feedback on buyers. You can still leave negative about a seller, but they cannot retaliate with negative for you.
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I heard that was happening. In fact I heard there was going to be a 'strike' (people not using eBay) for a day because of it. I know I personally think it's a good idea.
 
Well guys in my case I bought a New MS streets and trips from a guy. He charged $20.38 S&H from 400 miles away. I am cool with what it cost to take stuff to mail and a persons time.

The way he shipped it was out it in a thicker and wider box (I still have it) no packing. It cost $6.95 to ship he then charged me $1.99 insurance instead of the $1.35 it cost.

I left neutral feed back and he slammed me with a negative. I have 273 feed back and he screws me with a negative. I think the best way for feed back is neither side can see it till after it is left. That way no one can retaliate for feed back.
 
Metrodps said:
I think the best way for feed back is neither side can see it till after it is left. That way no one can retaliate for feed back.
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Yeah but then everyone will just be 'nice'.

I'm generally a hard ass and I even wimped out on a guy and held back a negative rating. I only have 50 or so buys so a negative will really affect my rating.

This guy over charged for shipping to the tune of $20 OVER on a $7 item. But it was totally my fault I didn't ask first (the one and only time :mad:) And then tried telling me he HAD to pay insurance, and brokerage fees and duty which is ALL bull.

I guess it's easy for me to say only the buyer gets to leave feedback because I don't sell. It would suck for good sellers that meet morons which they inevitably do.
 
Metrodps said:
I think the best way for feed back is neither side can see it till after it is left. That way no one can retaliate for feed back.
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fireplug said:
Yeah but then everyone will just be 'nice'.

I'm generally a hard ass and I even wimped out on a guy and held back a negative rating. I only have 50 or so buys so a negative will really affect my rating.

This guy over charged for shipping to the tune of $20 OVER on a $7 item. But it was totally my fault I didn't ask first (the one and only time :mad:) And then tried telling me he HAD to pay insurance, and brokerage fees and duty which is ALL bull.

I guess it's easy for me to say only the buyer gets to leave feedback because I don't sell. It would suck for good sellers that meet morons which they inevitably do.
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If You can't see what I leave and I can't see what you leave I think people would be more honest. Because then if you said not a pleasure able experience and left a Neutral I could leave a negative on you because you gave me a Neutral.

I am so fed up with eBay I wish there was a better way. I like buying here because it is a straight forward transaction.
 
Resolution

Well I finally got everything worked out. In the end, somehow I think this seller was truly surprised that what he was doing was not legit.

There was the added difficulty of a communication gap, and he ended up being quite belligerent but as soon as I forwarded the various communications from eBay and PayPal he did an about face.

So for the record. Regardless of the country;

Thank you for contacting PayPal.

Under Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express regulations and
the laws of several states, including California, merchants may not
charge a fee to the buyer for accepting credit card payments (often
called a 'surcharge').

To comply with these laws and regulations, sellers may not charge a fee
for accepting PayPal.

This limitation does not prevent sellers from imposing a handling fee in
connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling
fee does not operate as a surcharge (in other words, the handling fee
for transactions paid through PayPal may not be higher than the handling
fee for transactions paid through other payment methods).

The link Metrodps sent was also informative and especially note that it also covers the use of other payment methods.
 
Glad to hear. Sounded bad at first but I noted the seller has over 900 transactions and a rating over 99% so I doubted it was a scam. Glad things worked out.

Definitely eBay/PayPal is not your friend. They put themselves 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...... and if you happen to benefit, well, you're lucky.

As for the no extra charges for credit cards what's with all the gas stations that show cash & credit prices?
 
Looking at the sellers other auctions, he sure seems like the "real deal" with respect to German collectible items....

When I see a seller who offers truck parts, lycra stretchpants and handpainted dishware in their current listings...it's time to be cautious.

Only you can decide if it's worth the extra fees and aggravation. I'm sure the language barrier makes things tougher also. It's easy to misinterpret his responses as belligerent, when it's really just difficulty with the language.
 
BKinzey said:
Glad to hear. Sounded bad at first but I noted the seller has over 900 transactions and a rating over 99% so I doubted it was a scam. Glad things worked out.

Definitely eBay/PayPal is not your friend. They put themselves 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...... and if you happen to benefit, well, you're lucky.

As for the no extra charges for credit cards what's with all the gas stations that show cash & credit prices?
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I finally received some feedback on a VW forum about him. Looks like he HAS been increasingly devious the past while. Changing descriptions at the last minute of the auction selling parts as 'original' or 'NOS' when they aren't etc. so until I have the part in my hand I don't consider it over. Here's hoping though.

I've never seen that where gas stations charge more for using a credit card. Small chains or the big guys?
 
Arco I believe does. Just like Paypal, they pay for each transaction, they can either pass that on to the customer, or simply choose not to accept them.
 
They call it a "discount for cash". I don't know if its legal but I've seen it, too.
 
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