I'm pretty sure it is a common thing.
Martin
Martin
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LETS DEBATE FLOATING GEARS in a Manual
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Stomis
Professional Amateur
Im with Martin. Ive never had any issue floating gears in anything ive owned. Sure you cant do it mashing the gas but driving like a normal person Ive never had a problem...
punchinghorse
Uppercutting Equestrian
Yes you CAN float gears in most transmissions, and it's not all that difficult (especially a 465 or similar) but like others have said it's not good for the transmission. My thinking was more along the lines of a light duty trans that was intended to be floated without causing damage.
It's not hard on them, and there is no reason not to do it.
Martin
Martin
Eaton doesn't want you to float gears in their transmissions either. You are suppose to double clutch each shift.
Martin
Martin
Stomis
Professional Amateur
Que all the over the road truckers with hulk left legs... Lol
I'm not saying anyone does it, but that is how they are suppose to do it.
Martin
Martin
punchinghorse
Uppercutting Equestrian
Yeah when I was in school and training, they shoved double clutching down your throat and talked about how bad floating was, etc. But in reality it's only bad when the noobs try to do it and grind em until they find em. I already knew how to float when I started school, but my first trainer really helped me perfect it. Then the second trainer flipped when I did it and said I had to double clutch. I did it to appease him. I thought he was full of crap but apparently he played totally by the book on everything.
One time I was laying in bed and he thought I was asleep. I figured I'd catch him floating but nope...double clutched every single gear, every single time. Of course this was also the guy who would, even pulling 45k, start in 4th and rev the piss out of the engine and ride the clutch to get it going. Then max out 4th and skip to 6th and lug the hell out of it.
One time I was laying in bed and he thought I was asleep. I figured I'd catch him floating but nope...double clutched every single gear, every single time. Of course this was also the guy who would, even pulling 45k, start in 4th and rev the piss out of the engine and ride the clutch to get it going. Then max out 4th and skip to 6th and lug the hell out of it.
Double Clutching is hard compared to floating gears! 
When I was young and taught to shift without a clutch it came so naturally. Years later I got a truck with a Cat engine and shifting that was even simpler, just a slight movement of the go pedal to let of load with a slight pull on shifter and it floats right into gear. Man I liked driving the Kitty Cat!
When I was young and taught to shift without a clutch it came so naturally. Years later I got a truck with a Cat engine and shifting that was even simpler, just a slight movement of the go pedal to let of load with a slight pull on shifter and it floats right into gear. Man I liked driving the Kitty Cat!
72blazerguy
3/4 ton status
Dad learned to shift without the clutch in a 60s VW Beetle and drive dump, trash and delivery trucks into the late 70s off and on. He then taught me to do it in a 89 Cavalier. Both the Cavalier and the S10 Blazer we had at the time, my parents bought new and both were driven well into the 200k mile range being regularly shifted without the clutch.
I put 80k miles on my used Jeep Cherokee doing it and never had any transmission problems. In fact it was about the only way to get INTO 2nd when it was below freezing. AFAIK, the original AX15 was in it when I sold it with 245k on the clock.
I also learned to double clutch though. Grandpa's 76 C10 and my Great Uncle's 62 GMC two ton grain truck were double clutched into low and shifting the two speed rear in the Gimmy. I taught a good friend to shift his 76 C60's two speed rear as well. I'm not saying I'm good at it, but I'm good enough...
I put 80k miles on my used Jeep Cherokee doing it and never had any transmission problems. In fact it was about the only way to get INTO 2nd when it was below freezing. AFAIK, the original AX15 was in it when I sold it with 245k on the clock.
I also learned to double clutch though. Grandpa's 76 C10 and my Great Uncle's 62 GMC two ton grain truck were double clutched into low and shifting the two speed rear in the Gimmy. I taught a good friend to shift his 76 C60's two speed rear as well. I'm not saying I'm good at it, but I'm good enough...
