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My TBI stumble fix

Greg Ducato

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Just wanted share a little info for anyone chasing an off idle stumble on a TBI engine. I have had my 1988 Suburban V10 about two years now and it has always had an off idle stumble, worse when cold. In addition, it would leak oil past the guides when parked and smoke when started, but otherwise ran OK for the high mile heavy truck it is. Knowing I would have to replace the heads at some point I started gathering parts. In the mean time, I replaced the EGR valve thinking that might cure my stumble, it did not.
Finally got some time and tore the top end down to the short block. Bores looked OK and oil pressure has always been good so we left that alone. Replaced the timing chain and gears and water pump with a Stewart Stage II. Put the ATK reman heads in place and started bolting on all my goodies I have been collecting: NOS throttle body and injectors with new IAC and TPS, new AC Delco distributor with cap and rotor, plugs wires etc, new EGR solenoid and MAP sensor, adjustable Fuel pressure regulator and injector spacer kit, new GM fuel pump (surprisingly cheap) and filter, Edelbrock intake manifold, Thorley headers and connecting pipes, Salad bowl,K&N etc. Pretty much everything, except the EGR valve since, you know, that was new anyway, right? Well, she fired up and ran pretty good once we replaced a defective Injector pod, and the stumble was diminished but still there for sure. We readjusted timing, cranked fuel pressure to 14lbs and it was still there. I looked at everything we had done and surmised that the only non oe replacement part we hadn't used was the EGR valve and the temperature control switch. I called the local AC Delco distributor who had these on the shelf and we replaced these two items. In comparing the EGR valves there were some obvious differences that we didn't notice the first time we had replaced it. Probably because the original EGR had already been replaced before we bought the truck.
Well, the good news is that the factory EGR fixed our stumble, not only that but the power gains we expected from the upgraded parts really became noticeble where they were not prior to the valve replacement. I am truly stunned at how much this singular item detracted from the performance of the engine and just wanted to share this with the group in hopes that it might save someone else some aggravation down the road.:woot::woot::woot:
 
I've noticed an off-idle stumble on mine too; not when dead cold, but once the temp starts to rise & before it's at operating temp. Hmmm... that combined with the high-ish NOx numbers I had last time I smogged... might be a good idea to swap that EGR valve.

How much was the OE unit from the dealer?
 
I've noticed an off-idle stumble on mine too; not when dead cold, but once the temp starts to rise & before it's at operating temp. Hmmm... that combined with the high-ish NOx numbers I had last time I smogged... might be a good idea to swap that EGR valve.

How much was the OE unit from the dealer?

I paid $88 for it from the AC Delco distributor who had it in stock, I didn't ask the dealer but would estimate it is probably less than $100. That seems like a lot but compared to the power and driveability it is a relative bargain.
 
gmpartsdirect is excellent too, if you have the GM part number. I don't believe the AC numbers work there. As with them as well, shipping is the killer there, just depends on what you are buying and if anyone can ship it cheaper.
 
Amazon Prime is the way to go. Free 2 day shipping on most stuff!
 
The AC-Delco number for mine was 214-5073


Do you happen to know if this is a negative or positive backpressure valve. I know the factory egr valves that our TBI engines came with had a letter to signify this n=negative p=positive. Could not find the info doing a search on the part number. This is the major reason they always give us the wrong one at any general parts store, Even the stealership could not give me that info.
 
I don't recall seeing any markings on the valve. The truck is up on the lift getting a gear swap so when I get it back on the ground I will have a look and post if I see any markings.
 
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