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Need help! DMV tomorrow!!!!

FlatBlackBurb

FlatBlackBurb

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1977 camper special. small block 400. buddy sold to me because he had to leave for fire academy and didnt' have the space to leave it back here.

thing runs and drives like a champ. makes me miss my old '87 suburban. ever since i got rid of that thing i've always wanted another old chevy like this. time has come. BTW for everyone reading this i'm not quite sober so if something doesnt make sense, you know why.

my good friend has been letting me keep this at his house for some time and its great, I want to get this thing registerd so I can drive it. insurance is cheap already looked into it.

problem is it hasn't been registed since 2006. back fees are probably 500+ by now and i can't afford that. Is ther ANYTHING I can do to get around these? Maybe make a statement of facts saying the original owner told me it was on non op? or maybe i need this for a work truck to pull trailers cause I have a baby on the way and working two jobs? I mis wheeling and miss my truck can you guys help me please? I will provide any additional information if you guys need it
 
yeah pretty much I guess. i hav a list of all the fees and theve been adding up since 2006. The owner just neglected the truck I guess and sold it to my buddy. Of corse I knew all this when I bought the truck i just wanted a truck
 
oh yeah btw let me say WOW it has been a while since I have gotten on these forums. feels like I found an old friend again. I miss my solid axle chevys!!!!!!
 
Here in UT you just pay 2 years back Flat property tax, plus the registration and tax for this year and your all good. Don't know about your Commiefornia.
 
CA DMV keeps records for something like 10 years..... if it's in their system, with unpaid fees you can bet they're going to want the money. The state is practically bankrupt remember?

There are plenty of people who have been in the same situation as you (incorrectly non-op'ed vehicles) and odds of DMV just waiving those fees for you are slim and none.

My guess on the best strategy to use is to register it in Nevada or Oregon, then transfer it back to CA....that might have the effect of "flushing" the old fees.... I believe this happens when the CA title is sent to the DMV. The stuff you fill out on the back indicates that the vehicle is no longer in the state. When you finally show up again to register it, the vehicle shows up as new to the state and you will need to get a VIN inspection at the DMV (and of course a smog check)....

Who knows? You might be able to negotiate with a supervisor at DMV to get the back registration fees reduced....times are tough, and they might take "something" instead of nothing. It's worth asking the question.



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Been years since I've had to deal with it, but my memory is that if have a bill of sale dated yesterday, say, YOU are liable only for registering it from then, and the previous owners are liable for the back part.

I could be wrong. Worst case, you can retroactively non-op it for the last year or two (less fees/penalties for non-op than reg), but I don't think they let you do that for longer.

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In my experience no way to dodge the back fees. CA DMV keeps records for 7 years Before i can fall off books and no more fees, unless it has a salvaged title.

Had an issue when a friend gave me a old 78 toyota truck. It hadnt been registered in a few years and dmv said that somebody had to pony up the cash or it wasnt getting back on the road. I belived i payed a little under 300 for it.

DMV is just like the Traffic court system. They are heartless and have no souls. You can try to talk out of it, but i doubt it will change anything.

You could try out of state reg, that seems like a way to work it.
 
I just re registered a vehicle I had just stopped using since about 2006. It was an 86 so the back fees are likely to be similar. I can't see it being $500 for only three years. The registration should be less than $100/year and I think mine was about $80/year.

Is your question whether the lady at the DMV who gets paid to sit around all day and talk to people who are unfortunate enough to be within 5 miles of the DMV will cut you a deal? :haha: :haha:

Seriously though, see if you can actually get it smogged first and then worry about the registration. If it won't pass smog, you don't need to worry about the registration anyway.
 
I've had personal experience with this scenerio years ago and unless California laws have changed since then (doubtful) you will be paying ALL back fees if you want to register this truck in California. If there was a non-op put on this truck then there are no back fees. Secondarily after 4 years of no inquiries on a vehicle in the state of California that vehicle is dropped from DMV records and they will have no history on it and that means a VIN verification will need to be done along with a smog check but NO BACK FEES.

Also back fees aren't just the unpaid years of registration it also includes a penalty for each unpaid year so that is how the back fees become more than what the original registration would have been.
 
4X4HIGH said:
Also back fees aren't just the unpaid years of registration it also includes a penalty for each unpaid year so that is how the back fees become more than what the original registration would have been.
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True, I had a penalty. If the thing was properly registered until 2006 then the fees are probably not that bad. I stopped paying the reg on my wifes 86 Honda in 2006 and it was under $300 for the whole deal when I registered it a couple months ago. A 77 had even cheaper annual fees so it may even be less. If it wasn't registered even before 2006 then that could be a bigger problem.
 
This is from DMV's website.

The penalties when paying annual renewal registration fees late.

California does not offer a grace period after your vehicle's registration expiration date. Be sure to pay your renewal fees on or before the date of expiration shown on your current registration card or penalties will be due in accordance with Vehicle Code Sections 9552 - 9554. The longer you delay payment of fees, the greater the penalty amount will be.
Even though your plates display only the month and year, your registration expires on a specific day. Be sure to check the registration card for the actual day of expiration.
If you do not receive a billing notice approximately 60 days before your vehicle's registration expires, please call 1-800-777-0133 to find out what your fees are.
Use the following information to determine how renewal penalties are calculated. Penalty fees are assessed in addition to any other fees due.
Registration fee penalty for renewal applications.
Table on how Vehicle Registration Annual Renewal Penalties are Calculated If payment is late:
The penalty will be the sum of:
1-10 days* 10% of the Vehicle License Fee due for that year, 10% of the Weight Fee due for that year, if any
11-30 days* 20% of the Vehicle License Fee due for that year, 20% of the Weight Fee due for that year, if any
31 days-1 year* 60% of the Vehicle License Fee due for that year, 60% of the Weight Fee due for that year, if any
More than 1 year-2 years 80% of the Vehicle License Fee due for that year, 80% of the Weight Fee due for that year,
if any More than 2 years 160% of the Vehicle License Fee due for that year, 160% of the Weight Fee due for that year, if any

A Planned Non-Operation may be filed up to 90 days after the registration expiration date if the vehicle was not operated in any manner, but appropriate late penalties are due as shown above.


Fees due prior to January 1, 2003, are assessed penalties using the following information:
  • 80% for more than 1 year to 2 years
  • 160% for more than 2 years
 
wow the dmv is really harsh... i'm going to try and sweet talk my way out of it or tell them some lame story about how i'm broke and see if that gets me anywhere. wish me luck i'll tell you guys how it went when i come back
 
I forgot to add also that even if you just bought the truck (or got it for free or however else you might have happened upon it) any fees associated with the truck go to the new owner as well.
 
went to the dmv. the very nice lady at the front said that all the fees had been paid and that she could wave them. (too bad i didnt get her when my ticket got called) and the guy was pretty nice and waived all the pentalties. still came out with just under $500 that I owed. Now i'm debating wether or not its worth it. IM broke as a joke. For the whole nevada thing do you actually have to take the truck to nevada to register it so they can inspect it and all that? also you have to have a nevada mailing address right?
 
FlatBlackBurb said:
went to the dmv. the very nice lady at the front said that all the fees had been paid and that she could wave them. (too bad i didnt get her when my ticket got called) and the guy was pretty nice and waived all the pentalties. still came out with just under $500 that I owed. Now i'm debating wether or not its worth it. IM broke as a joke. For the whole nevada thing do you actually have to take the truck to nevada to register it so they can inspect it and all that? also you have to have a nevada mailing address right?
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Ok, so what am i missing here. :confused:

If the "nice lady" said that all the fees had been paid then she wouldn't have to waive them, and also if the "guy" waived the penalties then how could you still owe under $500.00? :crazy:

Something just isn't right here. Waiving a fee means it is completely gone so if that was the case the only thing you would owe is the current years registration fees and they aren't anywhere close to 500.00 unless you told them you paid like 5K for the truck then that would be close to 480.00 in taxes but you would still need to add the reg fee.
 
yeah she didnt know what she was talking about. i knew there were fees I was just hoping she would help me waive them or whatever. The dmv did waive all the penalties for being late, but that still leaves 5 years of registration fees due. thats what I have to pay i guess...

darn it! :mad:
 
Does Santa Cruz have really expensive registration or something? My 71 reg. is only $65/year and the 86 Honda isn't much more.

5 years x $65 = $325? It doesn't sound like they waived any late fees.
 
they actually did. he printed me out what it would have been and it came to like $976 or something with all the penalties for being late and stuff on there. and I don't know all I know is it came to a couple bucks under 500. I'm gonna go back and try and get that lady who said she would waive the reg fees.
 
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