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Need help with window motor and alignment

ACannell

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Hey Gents, I've been searching the forum and even google but can't find any good directions on 'how to' replace the front window motor and regulator. I can't see jack due to the access hole being so high and motor so low. I also need to adjust the window alignment because the window doesn't track straight when its all the way up. Thanks in advance for any help offered.
 
I believe you will have to drill out the rivets that hold the regulator to the door and remove it as an assembly. Once out of the door you can remove the motor to replace it.

The window run channels may need to be replaced, the rubber that the window slides up/down in the channels at the front and back of the door.
 
Thanks for the words. Do you know what the 4 nuts on the door hold in then? If I drill out the rivets I take it the assembly needs to be riveted back in right?
 
I changed out my regulator and both motors for the front door. Not too bad really.

I just removed the bolts holding the regulator to the door panel which made everything loose. I might of loosened the bolts that hold the window channel runner as well.

The rollers from the regulator can be slid out on one end of the window channel and the second one can come out about mid-way from the channel (open slot). Once the regulator is separated from the window channel, it's a matter of working the window out carefully.

Once the window is out, the regulator can come out through the top part of the door (window opening).

One of my rivits broke on the regulator so I replaced the whole thing. The beauty was that I got to practice removing one in the junkyard before actually taking apart my own truck. I removed the whole regulator from a junk truck, swapped the motor while it was out, and then re-installed into my truck. Worked great!

Your adjustment may also be part of the worn out felt in the window guide within the door cavity.

Good luck!
 
I've got a new motor but the weather sucks and the trucks to tall to move in doors. I hope this weekend will be the right time to attempt the fix.
 
These window regulators can be a giant MOUSE TRAP if your not careful.

If you can, get the window about 1/3 to 1/2 down.

Carefully place a clamp on the window to hold it from dropping.

2 pieces of 2x4 with some duct tape on them or wrapped with a layer of heavy cloth.

sit the pieces of 2x4, one on either side of the window and then clamp them LIGHTLY so the window can't fall.

Now reach down inside and carefully unplug the window power plug from the motor.

Remove the bolts/nuts that hold the regulator assembly to the door.

The assembly can then be pushed in and wrangled out of the door.

Now the "X" lift has 3 arms with nylon rollers on the ends. There are two arms that go to the lower track on the window itself.

The third arm goes to the "fixed" track in the door (runs horizontally)

The windows lower track has a spot that the rollers will come out of.

You must juggle the regulator back and forth to get the rollers out of the track.

Now you can carefully fold the arms together and snake the entire assembly out through the access hole in the door.

The motor is riveted to the regulator assembly with 3 rivets.

You must remove the rivets to get the motor off.

NOW the regulator has a nast assed spring in it, so be careful.

The motors drive gear must engage the gear segment on the regulator correctly.

You can use a pair of small "vise tongs" to clamp the assembly so it wont Snap closed and bite you when you remove the motor.

Once apart. check that all the rollers are present and will work.

Clean the entire assembly well with either solvent or a degreaser and blow dry.

Lube the hinge points with a non drying lube, and lube the rollers and the tracks with white grease (lubriplate 104 is good) be sure to clean the roller tracks well too as these collect dirt and crud that is a reason that these things go away in many cases.


Look the gear segment on the regulator over well to be sure the teeth are not messed up. ( a messed up gear segment will screw up a new motor real quick

Now, many of the new/rebuilt motors come with 2 little screws and nuts with star washers.

THESE are JUNK and will shake loose and the thing will stop working.

Some good small bolts that fill the hole well and have heads that will clear the assembly are best.

Use a nylock nut or if you cant get them, use BLUE LOCTITE on the threads.

Just make sure that the bolts fill the holes and do not allow the motor to ROCK?MOVE

Also be really sure the bolt heads will clear the mechanism.

Once the regulator has been fixed. move on to the rubber slide tracks.

These are available from LMC truck parts and a few other places.

You must remove the bolts and get the tracks away from the glass to get the windows out.

The new rubber track liners can be placed into the doors upper area and down the tracks, then reinstall the window.

Once the window is nicely back into its track and slides freely, you can block and clamp it back where you had it.

Try to place the regulator in about the same spot as it was.

Reinstall the regulator, installing the rollers back into the tracks as they were.

Lube those tracks well.

Be sure to get the lower arms roller into the inner horizontal traclk on the door.

Align the bolts/studs with the holes in the door and be sure the assembly slides in easily and is not binding.

Also be sure the wiring lays where it was and can't get into the regulator assembly.

Plug in the motor and your set.

Remove the clamp and try the thing.

If your repair was correct, the window should go up and down very easily and with little effort on the motor.


Now, not all window motors are as good as others.

I have had some rebuilts that were JUNK and others that were great.

Good luck and keep us posted

Snowy
 
yes, very easy. Just pop the back cover off the tailgate and the motor is right there.

No, I need to change the motor in the pass front door, its very slow.

Damn I didnt know it was riveted on, crap this sounds like a job, not sure if I can do this.
 
No, I need to change the motor in the pass front door, its very slow.

Damn I didnt know it was riveted on, crap this sounds like a job, not sure if I can do this.

I just changed out both motors on the driver's and passenger's door. Not too bad. I did not encounter any rivets on mine. The only rivets I saw were part of the regulator assembly and don't need to be drilled out. I had to replace my driver's regulator because the rivet actually separated.

I also did not have any "super spring loaded regulator". Mine was relatively relaxed with a little bit of tension on the arms.

For me, I replaced my driver's regulator, motor and also the passenger's motor.

In both cases, the window glass needs to be removed and the regulator so I basically did it twice. Took about an hour to do both doors.
 
I just changed out both motors on the driver's and passenger's door. Not too bad. I did not encounter any rivets on mine. The only rivets I saw were part of the regulator assembly and don't need to be drilled out. I had to replace my driver's regulator because the rivet actually separated.

I also did not have any "super spring loaded regulator". Mine was relatively relaxed with a little bit of tension on the arms.

For me, I replaced my driver's regulator, motor and also the passenger's motor.

In both cases, the window glass needs to be removed and the regulator so I basically did it twice. Took about an hour to do both doors.

Okay, I have never removed glass from any vehicle so it intimidates me somewhat. I was hoping I could access the motors w/o having to pull the glass etc, espcially since they are gear driven.

Where did you get the motors?...part numbers?...should I replace everything since I will have it all removed anyway?
 
Okay, I have never removed glass from any vehicle so it intimidates me somewhat. I was hoping I could access the motors w/o having to pull the glass etc, espcially since they are gear driven.

Where did you get the motors?...part numbers?...should I replace everything since I will have it all removed anyway?

Nah, just the motors. I think I paid about $32 each at Napa. Definitely not gm made but they do work great. Much faster now.

Because I needed a new regulator, I first went to the junk yard. Doing this, gave me the opportunity to "try my skills" before doing some type of damage on my own truck.

The window actually came out pretty easy. Just needed to get off of the regulator arm. Once that was done, it came out pretty easy. You need to angle it off a bit to get it out so the channel guides in the door also need to be loose.

I wish I took some pics of the process.....

Try the junkyard first if you can. Really not too bad...just a little greasy.

Good luck!
 
Speaking of glass, I guess I've done about 75% of it now.

I've changed the rear tailgate window (from a totally cracked one)
Both fiberglass top side windows (from fixed to sliders)
And both front doors.

The fiberglass ones were not nearly as bad as I was expecting. Amazing what a little glass cleaner can do as a lubricant!
 
Went to the junkyard and took a few shots. I think its better to pull the whole assembly out through the opening on the side of the door rather than the top gap. You will need to remove the chrome looing support bar and the door handle rod (in pic).

Hope this helps.

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