ciffer
1/2 ton status
sounds like the plan. do I need to worry about over revving or will the valve float before that is an issue?
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need tips for first time mud bogger
- Thread starter ciffer
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sounds like the plan. do I need to worry about over revving or will the valve float before that is an issue?
A stock motor will be fine likely
supersize75k5
OrganDonorRacing.com
4lo and first..if you have the wheel speed and momentum shift it up as you need it and if you run out of rpms.
I now grab a whole cheap off brand bottle of cooking oil, put it in a spray bottle and soak down my chassis. I just did a mud run and it was insane how easily it cleaned off this time.
Another thing is I get a piece of cardboard and zip tie it to my grill on the back side. Just loop the zip tie through and it will work. This keeps the mud out but leaves a few inches or more between the cardboard and the radiator.
For the windshield I was advised to use rainex on mine.. it sure did the trick. Just take plenty of water with you and towels/ squeegee
I now grab a whole cheap off brand bottle of cooking oil, put it in a spray bottle and soak down my chassis. I just did a mud run and it was insane how easily it cleaned off this time.
Another thing is I get a piece of cardboard and zip tie it to my grill on the back side. Just loop the zip tie through and it will work. This keeps the mud out but leaves a few inches or more between the cardboard and the radiator.
For the windshield I was advised to use rainex on mine.. it sure did the trick. Just take plenty of water with you and towels/ squeegee
ciffer
1/2 ton status
Cool, thanks for all the advise. I'll let you know I do.
If you haven't left for the event yet, here is some "inspiration"....
This was the first and only mud bog event I've ever done, but it was really fun.
This was the first and only mud bog event I've ever done, but it was really fun.
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a little rough start in the wrong gear, but pulled through pretty well 
YZEATER
1/2 ton status
well how'd ya do?
with my built 383ci, 4.56 geared axles, i still run 4 low, and start in 1st gear with every size tire i run. unless your running in 6" of soup, there's no way a stock engine will pull high range.
with my built 383ci, 4.56 geared axles, i still run 4 low, and start in 1st gear with every size tire i run. unless your running in 6" of soup, there's no way a stock engine will pull high range.
ciffer
1/2 ton status
Made it 130' and hit a big hole at the end of the pit, which was about 140' long. The truck stopped moving so I lifted and quit, maybe I could have made it further. It was fun, nothing broke and I didn't get last place.
There were pretty decent ruts and more trucks in my class made it through but most of them went to the left of the hole. I was going to do the same but more or less aimed the truck, hit the gas and kept it straight. I ran in 4lo in 2nd gear, which is good because I was redlined in 1st half the way through the pit.
There is another mud bog in 3 weeks, which should give me time to find some mud tires.
Besides tires, what will give me best bang for the buck in mud bogs? I have a Edelbrock Performer manifold sitting around for a carbed motor, I have TBI, I think there is a adapter available. I also have some used long tubes sitting around.
There were pretty decent ruts and more trucks in my class made it through but most of them went to the left of the hole. I was going to do the same but more or less aimed the truck, hit the gas and kept it straight. I ran in 4lo in 2nd gear, which is good because I was redlined in 1st half the way through the pit.
There is another mud bog in 3 weeks, which should give me time to find some mud tires.
Besides tires, what will give me best bang for the buck in mud bogs? I have a Edelbrock Performer manifold sitting around for a carbed motor, I have TBI, I think there is a adapter available. I also have some used long tubes sitting around.
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crash81
1/2 ton status
is this a street truck or just a play truck? well as for what to get next i say good tires i run boggers but lots of guys run tsl's with good results. headers are a good choice i run straight headers in the pit they come out the front fender well right over the front tires keeps mud out of them plus helps clean the front tires blows mud away lol. lockers i went cheap way and welded my diffs. and most of all service keep the oil changed in everything engine diffs, Tc, and trans. other than that its engine mods and that all depends on what and how you use the truck for. hope it helps and if i can just let me know
ciffer
1/2 ton status
This is a street truck.
In our stock 8cyl class we can have headers but must also have exhaust; I know a guy that can bend the pipes for cheap.
Boggers would be nice but they seem to be big money.
Wasn't there a company running a deal on mini-lockers on the site a few months back? I think the name was easy locker or something similar.
I'd say craigslist the manifold and get the propper one. The adapters are usually poorly made and they restict flow some. I noticed a huge difference from stock manifold with an adapter to a straight aftermarket intake.
four_by_ken
1/2 ton status
4 low or not will depend on the mud and also the truck. If you have the power in the truck and are able to keep the tires spinning in that mud... there is no reason for 4 low. All it will do is limit your wheel speed.
Check out the mud and see what is best. Some mud bogs are closer to mud drags... and if that is the case, you need all the speed you can get.
Have you taken this truck in the mud at all? If so, did it have enough power to keep the tires spinning in the goo?
The 700R4 will give you a nice 1st gear to launch in and with 31s, you really shouldnt need to be in 4 low.
Even in my M1009 with a 6.2 and 3.08s and 31s... I only use 4 low to crawl. It has plenty of power in 4 high to spin them in the mud.
Momentum and wheel speed is your friend.
And as someone said... keep the front wheels turning side to side when you start to slow down... use the sides of the ruts for traction.
Now as far as ruts go... you will have to decide to stay in them or not. If you can ride the ruts and use them, go for it... but if you are going to be bottoming out in the ruts, go for a new path.
Biggest thing... watch those before you and either do exactly the same, or totally opposite.
Good luck!
Check out the mud and see what is best. Some mud bogs are closer to mud drags... and if that is the case, you need all the speed you can get.
Have you taken this truck in the mud at all? If so, did it have enough power to keep the tires spinning in the goo?
The 700R4 will give you a nice 1st gear to launch in and with 31s, you really shouldnt need to be in 4 low.
Even in my M1009 with a 6.2 and 3.08s and 31s... I only use 4 low to crawl. It has plenty of power in 4 high to spin them in the mud.
Momentum and wheel speed is your friend.
And as someone said... keep the front wheels turning side to side when you start to slow down... use the sides of the ruts for traction.
Now as far as ruts go... you will have to decide to stay in them or not. If you can ride the ruts and use them, go for it... but if you are going to be bottoming out in the ruts, go for a new path.
Biggest thing... watch those before you and either do exactly the same, or totally opposite.
Good luck!
andyblack
Registered Loser
I never use 4-Lo to mud bog with a V8 truck. You need as much wheel speed as you can get. I guess it's according to what the thickness and consistency of the mud is as to what gear to use though. Our mud around here is usually more like thick, sticky, slick clay. If I used 4-Lo, I would just be spinning my wheels in place and going no where. If you're talking about some deep, soupy mud, 4-Lo may be the way to go.
I would say that just putting on the biggest mud tires you can get away with for your gearing will make the biggest difference of anything you can do. You'll be amazed at how much better this will let you bog. I've also found that spraying Pam cooking spray around the axles and wheel wells and stuff (not on the brakes) will make clean-up easier and let the truck glide through the mud better. Stay in the ruts too.
I would say that just putting on the biggest mud tires you can get away with for your gearing will make the biggest difference of anything you can do. You'll be amazed at how much better this will let you bog. I've also found that spraying Pam cooking spray around the axles and wheel wells and stuff (not on the brakes) will make clean-up easier and let the truck glide through the mud better. Stay in the ruts too.
