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New diesel offerings coming.

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2027 is THE END of Modern Day Diesels

-15 consecutive years of the 6.7l Powerstroke is coming to a end
- 20 consecutive years of the 6.7l Cummins is coming to a end
- 25 consecutive years of the 6.6l Duramax is coming to a end

-We are officially in the era of horsepower wars for diesel trucks as the big three have all announced that their diesel engines will be getting a huge increase in power and displacement in the near future

-The tried and true 6.7 Powerstroke will be replaced with an 8.0l Powerstroke.

-The 8.0 Powerstroke is confirmed by multiple ford engineers and is said to push out between 600 & 625hp and north of 1400tq from the factory

-It will also use a new sequential turbo system that ford recently filed a patten for

-The 6.7l Cummins will be replaced with a 7.2l Cummins which was confirmed on Cummins website

-The 7.2 Cummins will be based off the success of the 6.7l Cummins

-It will feature a auto start stop system which would be the first for heavy duty diesel trucks

-It will also feature a compression release engine brake

-The B7.2 Cummins is slated to make 545HP and 1450TQ from the factory

-Finally GM will be making its first displacement change in the Duramax ever by going from a 6.6l Duramax to a 8.3l Megamax

-The mega max will be a complete redesign from the 6.6 l Duramax we currently have

-GM is targeting over 600hp and between 1200 & 1400tq from the factory

We have officially entered the muscle era for diesel trucks
 
Can't imagine what those will feel like, my L5P 2024 is a rocket ship.


How much crap do we need to tow? :haha:
 
Fastereddie said:
Fake news. :whistle:
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The B7.2 shares the same 4.21 inch cylinder bore as the 6.7 liter but utilizes a longer 5.24 inch stroke length to the 6.7's 4.88 inch stroke, resulting in the larger displacement. Although comprehensive and finalized details have not yet been revealed the 7.2 liter engine is not, by design, an evolution of the 6.7 ISB. For example, the 7.2 Cummins utilizes a dual overhead camshaft design whereas the 6.7 is an overhead valve engine. This feature alone substantially changes the structure of the engine block and cylinder head.

7.2 liter Cummins diesel engine
Cummins B7.2 turbodiesel
Source - Cummins Inc

Enhanced Aftertreatment System​

It is no coincidence that the B7.2 is scheduled for 2027 as this target is aligned with more stringent EPA and CARB emissions regulations set to go into affect for 2027 model year vehicles. The updated rules are fairly comprehensive in that they require reductions in several categories of pollutants, including greenhouse gases, nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, hydrocarbons, and carbon monoxide.

It is likely that these requirements serve as the primary driving force behind the development of this new engine. The 7.2 Cummins will feature an even more sophisticated exhaust aftertreatment system to meet the upcoming emissions mandate. In addition to automatic engine shutdown and start-stop features, expect to see electrically heated catalysts and enhanced sensory guidance in the SCR and particulate filter systems. It is currently unknown what additional equipment and cold-start aids Cummins will utilize on the engine platform.

Power Ratings​

Like other commercial engines of its kind, the 7.2 liter will be offered in a variety of horsepower and torque ratings tailored to industry specific requirements. The official word from Cummins is that peak output will range between 240 and 340 horsepower and 650 to 1,000 lb-ft of torque. The table below summarizes the range of horsepower and torque combinations advertised by Cummins at the time of publishing.

 
imiceman44 said:
Yep.
They already have the big rigs on a 5 minutes idle max and it shuts off.
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I drive a 2024 Wester Star, it’s an over priced Freightliner.
I had our mechanics turn off the idle shutdown. It was set to 5 min, now, it doesn’t turn off unless I turn the key off.
F that SCR system! This thing drinks 2 gallons of DEF everyday after 380ish miles of driving. Half of that is loaded,130K lbs, pulling hard. Other half is only 52K lbs hauling ass @ 71 mph
Don’t like the new diesel’s…
 
BoondocK5 said:
I drive a 2024 Wester Star, it’s an over priced Freightliner.
I had our mechanics turn off the idle shutdown. It was set to 5 min, now, it doesn’t turn off unless I turn the key off.
F that SCR system! This thing drinks 2 gallons of DEF everyday after 380ish miles of driving. Half of that is loaded,130K lbs, pulling hard. Other half is only 52K lbs hauling ass @ 71 mph
Don’t like the new diesel’s…
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I found a way to not let shut off, if the parking brake is not on it will keep running so I just kept the trailer brakes on.
And as for the DEF my system is not working because the air line that feeds the system got plugged from some rust and it doesn't use DEF.
It did debate my power a little bit but it ran like this the last 135k miles
 
It's killing me that my 6Bt is sitting in my garage just waiting to go in my 99. Pretty much have zero experience in diesels other than big trucks. (had my CDL-A for 22 years now) and cant stand all the unnecessary BS stuff that is on new trucks. Can't imagine how much will be on these motors. Couldnt afford em anyways.
 
b454rat said:
It's killing me that my 6Bt is sitting in my garage just waiting to go in my 99. Pretty much have zero experience in diesels other than big trucks. (had my CDL-A for 22 years now) and cant stand all the unnecessary BS stuff that is on new trucks. Can't imagine how much will be on these motors. Couldnt afford em anyways.
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Just be happy you have it.
Around here a 6BT is gonna cost you $3K + shipping it still attached to its shipping crate(read: the POS dodge truck body that the engine resides in)
Then once you actually get possession, you get all the good times of stripping it out of its shipping crate.
(I’m planning on using a concrete saw with a metal cutting blade. I call it the “Master Key”)
But, I digress. I give my eye teeth for a 6BT.
 
can still find em out here, since got mine haven't been looking. Wasn't really looking for one, just happen to be on m/p and one popped up. Supposedly only needs a pushrod, it was bent, but trying to fid WHY it was bent was the issue. Didn't find anything, so thinking the rockers were loose, kid having fun with it and slipped off and bent pushrod. I'm not in a hurry to get it going, just SAS'd the truck it's going in, so wanna get that sorted out before doing that swap. I still can't comprehend how expensive things have gotten.....
 
ktmoutfront said:
-We are officially in the era of horsepower wars for diesel trucks as the big three have all announced that their diesel engines will be getting a huge increase in power and displacement in the near future
We have officially entered the muscle era for diesel trucks
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I think that happened about 20 years ago.
 
BoondocK5 said:
Just be happy you have it.
Around here a 6BT is gonna cost you $3K + shipping it still attached to its shipping crate(read: the POS dodge truck body that the engine resides in)
Then once you actually get possession, you get all the good times of stripping it out of its shipping crate.
(I’m planning on using a concrete saw with a metal cutting blade. I call it the “Master Key”)
But, I digress. I give my eye teeth for a 6BT.
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Don't forget it will have 300k on it also.
 
Why?
Has anyone compared the size of a C30 from the 60/70/80/90s to today's 1 tons? Good lord why are these trucks getting bigger and bigger. If you need an assault truck, look into a larger chassis. This desire hurts the guy looking for a basic half ton. Engineers aren't going to make smaller half ton trucks, the cab and engine bay are all the same, for production reasons. Can't find a mini truck anymore, today's "light truck" Tacomas etc are just as large and capable as fullsize trucks from the decades past.

Gezz, what changed? If you needed more from your 1 ton, you went C60 or whatever.

It just annoys me further that ALL manufacturers now use LED lights on trucks, like the Audubon is waiting. You're not a Porsche, you're a truck...taller than every generation of truck that came before...and getting taller. Not to mention heavier than before. Fuking bright lights and death machines that small men often drive like Civic hatches.

And I like trucks, I don't like regulations, but sometimes I sit back and wonder "who the flock is asking for this". Just feels like manufacturers making things more expensive...quicker.
 
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