Yeah, I bought his air bags because he couldn't use them with the 4-link setup.
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New ORD link conversion kit
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So, we almost feel a little weird creating this kit when it's really just what we normally do but so many people think that our stuff is just for crazy rock crawlers (because we use a lot of offroading pics to market this stuff) that we needed to get the news out more effectively. We really work to make the truck actually drive nice with any of our systems regardless of lift height or travel numbers because that's what we do. When you break it down more, a truck with a long travel suspension can travel faster over rougher terrain so it really needs to handle well to be able to go faster without crashing. This whole concept can seem strange to people that are used to poor handling trail only vehicles but it's probably why we've meshed so well and had so much fun in the offroad racing world. We like trucks that ride nice in the rough AND handle well. And coincidentally, that same truck is going to be really capable in the rocks or on the trails too.
So really what we're doing with the daily driver/tow rig system is putting a name on the package we already build. What we do specifically with the parts is bring the wheel travel down so that spring rates are easier to deal with and overall setup is easier, make the ground clearance compromises to make the links run level to keep roll steer in check and valve the shocks for a more street oriented use. We're working out details for a swaybar kit now and have some other component mods in mind to bring pricing down a little too. For the rear, one change we make is to go with the cartridge style joints from the start so they stay quiet and are cheaper to service. Another is to work with the shocks and mounts with the same goals listed above but specifically work to keep the shock under the bed floor so that the interior isn't even opened up. It's very possible to bring the shocks through the floor and still retain back seats and a sealed up passenger compartment but you do lose some space and it is extra work so keeping the shocks under the floor is a better option for overall utility.
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So really what we're doing with the daily driver/tow rig system is putting a name on the package we already build. What we do specifically with the parts is bring the wheel travel down so that spring rates are easier to deal with and overall setup is easier, make the ground clearance compromises to make the links run level to keep roll steer in check and valve the shocks for a more street oriented use. We're working out details for a swaybar kit now and have some other component mods in mind to bring pricing down a little too. For the rear, one change we make is to go with the cartridge style joints from the start so they stay quiet and are cheaper to service. Another is to work with the shocks and mounts with the same goals listed above but specifically work to keep the shock under the bed floor so that the interior isn't even opened up. It's very possible to bring the shocks through the floor and still retain back seats and a sealed up passenger compartment but you do lose some space and it is extra work so keeping the shocks under the floor is a better option for overall utility.
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New bag system. Coilovers do the lighter work and airbags haul the loads and tow the trailers.
We have some really cool drop brackets / cradle system for the taller trucks doing front and rear at the same time. Keeps the links fairly flat and long so it still drives nice and looks pretty cool too. We'd adjust shocks to suit your use it'll be awesome. And really fun.i want to do the full front and rear setup on this truck in the 9-10" lift range and some big fat tires . she will be getting a bbc roller motor .
Stephen, while we are on the subject of this. Is there any reason you guys didn't go with a trailing arm setup like say a pre runner would with a short shock to get the coil over off the rear of the axle? My guess is that it wouldn't handle as well sense the shocks are more forward?
oh trust me @Stephen when i have the money your guys will be 1st on the list if i do go this route .
It's really simplicity and cost plus our rear kits hit some pretty good travel numbers without going to a trailing arm shock mount. We can get 17" of vertical from a 16" travel shock and that's right about where it's smart to start thinking of a trailing arm for a go fast application but for mixed use it still works very well and you don't have to buy trailing arms. If you're planning on running really hard it might be worth it to run a trailing arm to bring shock shaft speeds down even with 16"-ish of wheel travel but to use this you are going to be wearing a helmet when you drive.
Weight also factors in and our trucks are generally heavy enough that we can get springs to work right and shock sticking friction isn't a problem.
Handling is mostly set by link geometry, not necessarily shock location. Moving the shock up on the arm mostly comes down to managing shaft speeds, spring rates and overall travel amounts. An example of overall travel amount vs. shock length is a long travel truck with 30" of wheel travel obviously can't run a 30" travel shock so they HAVE to leverage the shocks on the trailing arms. In general our trucks aren't playing on this field!
Shoot, even just the leaf spring lift I bought from you guys for my 89 V3500 crew cab which was 3" lift springs front (non-custom ones, just your regular leafs you offer), shackle flip rear, and 5125 bilstien shocks rides freaking great down the road IMO. Way better/smoother than before and way better than the stock suspension on my old 99 Cummins. So I can only imagine going link with the ability to customize spring rates to fit the need would be even better
Chris's truck actually sits at around that height actually so yup, no problem! He did have to work some to get his bump travel clearance so that it could sit that low because the cummins and the D60 don't leave a lot of room for a crossmember between them but it's in and it works.
I dont have Facebook anymore. Now I have to go looking for it. Great
drop us an email and we can send you the pics from the FB post if it's a pain for you to find.
