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you should be fine if you dont wheel it too hard, generally what ive read is that 35 is usually the max you should run with stock axles thats pushing it sometimes tho, some people do fine others break them left and right, i personally new a kid who ran 38.5x18.5 tires with the 10 bolt did fine until he got stuck now he runs still only a 12 bolt /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif, some people never learn, thats why theres CK5! /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
 
Run whatcha got/get and have fun /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif /forums/images/graemlins/burb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif
 
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I think this attitude, "Go '60 or go home" needs to leave this thread.

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i feel the same way. im more for upgrade as u go. find out what works for u and what dosent. if u start braking axle shafts alot and geting tired of fixing them, then i would upgrade to 60 or maybe something else. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
i concur. you dont "NEED" a 60 to have a good time. i have one, but its not going in the first truck i build. im gonna tinker with a set of 3/4 ton axles for a while, then build another rig with the 60 up front.

personally, i'd go for a running K5, put a set of 33s on it and go to town. if you desire bigger later, go from there.
 
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I think this attitude, "Go '60 or go home" needs to leave this thread.

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i feel the same way. im more for upgrade as u go. find out what works for u and what dosent. if u start braking axle shafts alot and geting tired of fixing them, then i would upgrade to 60 or maybe something else. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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A Dana 60 doesn't belong in anything that doesn't ride to the trail on a trailer if you ask me. If you have a Dana 60, you're wanting to abuse the rig for much more hardcore crap than the regualar guy. It's about that time it needs to be retired as a DD.

Sure if I had unlimited $$$$ I'd have '60s in everything, but as of now, I think that's the best avenue to take.

Weekend warrior? Locked 3/4 tons, some decent tires, some triming, and a mild lift.

Trailer trash? 1 tons, hacked, big tires, drive flanges, lcokers, winch, etc..


All in how you use the rig.
 
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I think this attitude, "Go '60 or go home" needs to leave this thread.

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i feel the same way. im more for upgrade as u go. find out what works for u and what dosent. if u start braking axle shafts alot and geting tired of fixing them, then i would upgrade to 60 or maybe something else. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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A Dana 60 doesn't belong in anything that doesn't ride to the trail on a trailer if you ask me. If you have a Dana 60, you're wanting to abuse the rig for much more hardcore crap than the regualar guy. It's about that time it needs to be retired as a DD.

Sure if I had unlimited $$$$ I'd have '60s in everything, but as of now, I think that's the best avenue to take.

Weekend warrior? Locked 3/4 tons, some decent tires, some triming, and a mild lift.

Trailer trash? 1 tons, hacked, big tires, drive flanges, lcokers, winch, etc..


All in how you use the rig.

[/ QUOTE ] I want a D60 for the piece of mind. I want too to be able too have fun with my K5 without having too worry if I'll break something. My plans do involve a Dana 60 front in the future even though I will drive my K5 to and from the trails, even though I'm not into major rock crawling, Even though I'll probley never go with tires larger then 36's to 38's.
 
If you break your front axle shafts you unlock the hubs and drive home. I've done it plenty of times.
 
In my opinion it costs about $20000 to build a highly capable, hardcore off road machine. Others may disagree but start adding up your receipts and you'll realize you have far more invested in your machine that you're willing to admit.


Your 100% Right on that point. The money is worth it though /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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If you break your front axle shafts you unlock the hubs and drive home. I've done it plenty of times.

[/ QUOTE ] This is true, but the tire/rim combo I want too run will tear up the 1/2 / 3/4 ton stuff. I like the wide look. I plan on rims with only 2" of back spacing. The 1/2 / 3/4 ton stuff just won't hold up. So that's a big reason why I plan on a D60 front axle. Besides, I much reather put money into upgrades/mods then repairs. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
 
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In my opinion it costs about $20000 to build a highly capable, hardcore off road machine. Others may disagree but start adding up your receipts and you'll realize you have far more invested in your machine that you're willing to admit.


Your 100% Right on that point. The money is worth it though /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Damn right it is. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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In my opinion it costs about $20000 to build a highly capable, hardcore off road machine. Others may disagree but start adding up your receipts and you'll realize you have far more invested in your machine that you're willing to admit.


Your 100% Right on that point. The money is worth it though /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Damn right it is. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

[/ QUOTE ] I agree, these trucks are not cheap too build, but they are alot of fun.
 
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Ok, last question for the night, since my brain is ready to explode. If I leave the stock setup that the truck has on it currently, and still go with the larger 35" tires and lift...whats the likelyhood of something messing up anytime soon. Like, would I be able to run with the stock axle setup for awhile, and swap them out later? You know what I mean? I just cant see spending that money on the axles if I dont really need them yet, as long as Im not too hard on them.

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I can see you running what the truck comes with for a while no problems , or if you drive like TheRobzilla , 1/2 ton can last forever on hard trails ( good joints and axleshafts help , but he went a long time on stock rears ) . It really just takes a nice easy foot , watching where you place the tires , and listening to your spotters .

Whatever you do though , just have FUN . You can do it your way , and at your pace . You probably have some ideas already , explore and enjoy /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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I think this attitude, "Go '60 or go home" needs to leave this thread.

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I am replying to his wanting to build a rig that is in his own words will be used 95% off-road. If you were building a rig for off-road abuse would you start with a 44?

Sure the money could be spent on gears and lockers but now your only increasing the risk of breaking those tiny axles. Now if he was building a daily driver I would have offered different advice and a more moderate build, but who on this site building a dedicated trail rig would waste their money on a 44 at the start of a well planned build.

I and most others I think, would rather not make it through an obstacle because we needed that extra locker than because we snapped another part on the trail. At least my money could be spent on that next upgrade rather than fixing something that wouldn't have broken if I started with the right parts.

Lets face it we drive big heavy trucks and for anything more than moderate off-roading you will need big heavy axles to match. Sure you could run the smaller ones but I am willing to bet that it takes more than stock shafts and u-joints to run anything remotely "hardcore". Instead of paying to upgrade these to almost 60 strength why not just start with a 60? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

If you have $5000 to start with, start building a rig using parts that won't let you down and leave you stranded. I think you will have far more fun this way. I did it the other way and believe me when I say it is more frusterating than fun when your rig is breaking down because of weak links.

I also think that most people usually aren't satisfied with tires small enough for stock axles. I was snapping parts with my 33's and my 36's killed what I had left. This was running open diffs to boot.

Decide what size tires you plan on using then build your rig to handle at least 3 sizes bigger because you will go to that bigger tire. What was that sig I read a while back "Small tires are like small breasts, they are fun to play with for a while but then you always want the bigger ones"
You'll find out just how true it is /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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If you break your front axle shafts you unlock the hubs and drive home. I've done it plenty of times.

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Which is exactly the reason to stop wasting money repairing a part that has had to be replaced "plenty of times". Not to mention after you broke that part the trail was probably over for you. Not much fun when your broken down and everyone else is still good to go.

/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Thats the way I see it anyways.
 
hmmm...


what if your set up had..

crate motor, hydro sm465, and a non slip yoke 205

add a springer kit in the rear, and some flexy bds springs up front, oh and a new interior, cowl hood and 36 inch tsl's and 99 tahoe seats and hurculiner in the rear...

add a 3 inch flowmaster and call it a day....


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If you break your front axle shafts you unlock the hubs and drive home. I've done it plenty of times.

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Which is exactly the reason to stop wasting money repairing a part that has had to be replaced "plenty of times". Not to mention after you broke that part the trail was probably over for you. Not much fun when your broken down and everyone else is still good to go.

/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Thats the way I see it anyways.

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I never broke my front 10 bolt until I got my 38.5s. I beat the snot out of it with 35s for three years and it never broke. There is no reason to run a Dana 60 unless you're running 37s or larger, locked, and you have a heavy foot. A 10 bolt or D44 is surprisingly strong.

If I was on a budget I'd avoid a Dana 60 like the plague and adjust tire size accordingly.

In fact, this is likely the last full bodied machine I ever build with a Dana 60 unless I build a pulling or mud truck. I would have been much better off sticking with my 3/4 tons, I could have saved nearly $3000
 
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In fact, this is likely the last full bodied machine I ever build with a Dana 60 unless I build a pulling or mud truck. I would have been much better off sticking with my 3/4 tons, I could have saved nearly $3000

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Even a mud truck depends on tire size. I mud raced for years with 34" TSL's up front and 33" Boggers in the rear with 3/4 tons. Even with a 400hp small block I only broke the front carrier once, and that was the first run with the 400hp motor.
 
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In fact, this is likely the last full bodied machine I ever build with a Dana 60 unless I build a pulling or mud truck. I would have been much better off sticking with my 3/4 tons, I could have saved nearly $3000

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Even a mud truck depends on tire size. I mud raced for years with 34" TSL's up front and 33" Boggers in the rear with 3/4 tons. Even with a 400hp small block I only broke the front carrier once, and that was the first run with the 400hp motor.

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I didn't mean a mud racer. I would never build a mud drag racer. I meant something to take out onto the trails where the mud gets deep enough to sink a truck with tractor tires.

I'm really just not into competition with trucks. It ruins the entire aspect of four wheeling for me.

In deep mud with decent horsepower and boggers a D44 or 10 bolt wouldn't last 5 minutes.
 
I don't totally agree. I'd run a dana 44 even with up to maybe a 38 if it was only in mud, even with a healthy motor.

the reasoning is mud gives, if you hit the throttle, the mud will give. Not saying you won't break axles occasionally, I just don't think it will be that common.

IMO a dana 60 belongs in a trail truck where you will encounter rocks, logs, mud, etc, more than it does a truck that only sees mud.

I do believe alot of people put in 60's that don't really need them, but hey it's their money, who am I to judge.
 
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