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next best thing to a 60??

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but as tim previouslly mentioned, what thick gearsets for a Dana 60?

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Probably just a typo. We all know nobody will make a thick gearset for a Dana 60.

I actually talked to the guy in marketing @ Precision Gear when I was at real truck challenge. I guess everyone knew that because I started a thread about it. Even so, I'm pissed that they won't at least try them out and see if they sell.

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According to Motive Gears on-line catalog, they make a D60 thick gear set for 4.56, 4.88 and 5.13 ratios.. They list them as front axle gear sets and the part numbers are as follows:

4.56 = D60-456XF
4.88 = D60-488XF
5.13 = D60-513XF
 
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but as tim previouslly mentioned, what thick gearsets for a Dana 60?

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Probably just a typo. We all know nobody will make a thick gearset for a Dana 60.

I actually talked to the guy in marketing @ Precision Gear when I was at real truck challenge. I guess everyone knew that because I started a thread about it. Even so, I'm pissed that they won't at least try them out and see if they sell.

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According to Motive Gears on-line catalog, they make a D60 thick gear set for 4.56, 4.88 and 5.13 ratios.. They list them as front axle gear sets and the part numbers are as follows:

4.56 = D60-456XF
4.88 = D60-488XF
5.13 = D60-513XF

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you didn't include the little star after each of those product codes that indicates its a reverse rotation gearset for the High Pinion Ford 60 /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
My fault. There wasn't a star, but they are reverse rotation...

Ok, so why not run a spacer? Obviously all the companies go this route and must not think they are creating a wink link...
 
If you call any shop(Randy's, etc) they sell spacers since they dont make the thick gears and for people who dont want to buy the carriers. Randy's sells the spacer for around $42 for a D60.. Whats a carrier run?
 
I just sold one for $50. As for making the ring gear spacer, its a few dollars at the most worth of steel that they can turn around and sell for $40 why wouldn't they sell it?
I don't see much wrong with the spacer. I just sold one to TruckNutzDude, well really I gave it to him but whatever I didn't care to have it. Have the high pinion 60 now so there is no worrying about this for me now /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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I just sold one for $50. As for making the ring gear spacer, its a few dollars at the most worth of steel that they can turn around and sell for $40 why wouldn't they sell it?
I don't see much wrong with the spacer. I just sold one to TruckNutzDude, well really I gave it to him but whatever I didn't care to have it. Have the high pinion 60 now so there is no worrying about this for me now /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I agree that its just a small dollar dollar as far as material and they sell it for $40... Machining it wold cost more than the material probably... My main point was why not just run the spacer or get a new carrier? Obviously no one has made thick gears for the 60 up until now(except for the Fords), so they dont feel its worth it.
 
when you are building an axle for beef I know I don't like the idea of placing a spacer between my pinion and carrier. A solid piece of steel will be stronger than 2 pieces of steel every time, it is that simple.
 
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when you are building an axle for beef I know I don't like the idea of placing a spacer between my pinion and carrier. A solid piece of steel will be stronger than 2 pieces of steel every time, it is that simple.

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I understand some people feel that way.. But if it were that much of a difference in strength, then my opinion would be that the gear mfg's would make the thick gears. Of course, they're probably thinkimg that people will just go out and buy the new carrier, which is probably the best route in my opinion.... You gotta think, how old is the carrier you're running and how much abuse has it seen? If you really are going for beef, most are goign to go with a new locker or carrier anyhow. Only those who have invested $$$ in some sort of locker would not be looking into buying another carrier and then could use the thick gears. But again, if there was that much of a strength difference, I feel the mfg's would make the thick gears.
 
9" eh? so the dana 50 is crap 'cause its ring gear is 0.75" smaller than a Dana 60. Hmmmm... I guess compared to a ff14b, the D60 must be crap... since its .75" smaller in the ring gear dept. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

in any case, I have run a 10 bolt with beefy shafts/joints and never even damaged a set of gears, let alone broke them. Is it possible? sure, but I've seen to many guys beating the living crap out of 8" toy axles and not breaking the r&p to believe that a well built d50 wouldn't be a decent axle in a wheelin rig. Is it the best thing ever? no... but neither is a stock 60.

j
 
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It's possible to run a D60 locker in a D61 case. A thick gearset PLUS a ring gear spacer is required. Everything else is the same as a regular D60 - hubs, knuckles, bearings, etc.

They're quite rare in front applications.

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Actually there are no thick gearsets for the Dana 60. In order to get a decent ratio into one you need to run the 4.56 up carrier and a spacer to get the ring gear where it needs to be.

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Now I have to disagree with you, it sucks WORSE then a 10b/44. You fergot about the unit bearing and all the steering problems, not to mention the metric bolt pattern.


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the dana 50 has issues that the aftermarket hasn't solved?

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The aftermarket solution to the Dana 50 is a Dana 60. There is nothing you can do to get a larger ring and pinion set except swap that junk out for a Dana 60 or larger.

As to the unit bearings, these can be eliminated but it's a waste of money if you ask me. Adjustable wheel bearings on a Dana 50 is simply polishing a turd.

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Yeah the conversion is like 3 grand /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif, You could buy a lot of goodies for 3gs!
 
if u get 5.39's in toy axles. they will break., my dad went threw 5 sets. but he had 300 horse buick motor and 38's. the pinion on them had like 5 teath. lol
 
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how big is the r&p in a dana 50? AFAIK its the same size as the D44 R&P and I dunno about you, but I hardly ever hear of anyone breaking a D44 R&P. joints, shafts, hubs etc etc etc sure... but R&P? pretty rare.

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There is one problem with your above point.

The Dana 50 has the strong joints, shafts, and hubs from the Dana 60 axle.

The shafts, hubs, and joints are not going to break, because the weak point is now the center section.

Ask anyone around who has put beefy shafts in a D44 or 10 bolt. The R&P is next. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Proof is in the pudding /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif This is the result. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif
 
red x's... truly a fate worse than DEATH! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

j
 
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red x's... truly a fate worse than DEATH! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

j

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it would seem with all the nice forum troubles the member's ride gallery is down /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
 
Soooo after reading all of this, some folks have forgot to mention some "minor" details. And since its the hard way we all choose to mod. our rigs, GOD AND MY FIANCE KNOW I AM FIRST IN LINE FOR THAT AWARD!!!!!

Rockwells, Mogs, and Volvos all require 20"-22" rims to run. Unless of course, you spend the $1000+ to change them over to conventional 1 ton brakes. Or $500+ for a pinion brake setup.

Rockwells also need to have at least 10" of spring lift, IF you use 2.0" box as spring perchs. Thats to clear that wonderful top loader assembly.

You aint selling me on a D50, ring gear may be ALMOST the same but the ends of a D44 and thin tubes aint worth the expense...did you forget that its a Drivers side drop?

I know you have probably just gone to the D60 idea by now. I just needed to make sure someone else can stay out of the doghouse.......ask me how I know all of this stuff /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif.
 
cheap when it comes to beefy parts is a very relative term /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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