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The axle itself is not a "1-ton", the truck it came in is. Before '77 the D44 was used in the K30. Therefore it is a "1-ton" D44. Does a 14FF from a 3/4 ton truck make it a 3/4 ton axle and not a 1 ton axle like a 14FF from an actual 1 ton truck?
 
to people that don't know, they think if a 14bff in a 3/4 ton is only a 3/4 ton, even though it is in both trucks. d44's will always be 1/2 and 3/4 tons. you have to look at the axles, not the truck sometimes, and the other times look at the truck.

to us, we always know better.
 
desertrat67 said:
The axle itself is not a "1-ton", the truck it came in is. Before '77 the D44 was used in the K30. Therefore it is a "1-ton" D44. Does a 14FF from a 3/4 ton truck make it a 3/4 ton axle and not a 1 ton axle like a 14FF from an actual 1 ton truck?
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There where NO k30 before 1977. There where c30s, but no k30s.
 
YZEATER said:
d44's are 1/2 ton's. the only difference is the outers, 6 or 8 lug.

also about the DW. the reason you hear so much about it is that everyone gets these used axles out of plow trucks, and beat work trucks with who knows how many miles, and they put them in their trucks and expect them to be new. a little maintence goes a long way.
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you know that's what everybody says about DW and a d60. "It's cuz they're putting bigger tires on at the same time as swapping axles", there's alot of half tons out there running 35s, 37s, 38s, and you almost never hear of DW with them. What's up? I drove a 86K5 thru highschool, and after, that ran on 37s for years without a bit of DW. True, it only went to the trail 2 or 3 times a year, I wheeled and daily drove it 80 miles a day for 6 years without ever having to go into the front end except for an axle seal, couple axle shafts and repacking the wheel bearings. Now on the other hand my neighbor had a 86 (i think) K30 with a 454, which was very sweet BTW, and it seemed like every year at some point he was rebuilding the king pins. His truck was his DD as well sitting on 38s and it never really got abused besides the occasional mud pit and what not. But I've also seen quite a few people on here that have done everything they can and can't seem to get rid on DW. If DW isn't bias more to a d60 you'd be hard pressed to convince me otherwise. I guess I'm just prejudiced from seeing my neighbor having to work on his K30 so much. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not deny the d60s strength and offroadability. Personally I want a d60 but until I beat the snot out of my d44 or find a good deal on one, I'm gonna refrain from a d60 since I don't want the H/A of the dreaded DW
 
The main cause is the king pin springs deflecting = true death wobble will shake the sh*t outa your truck HARD and SCARY.

#1 fix = get rid of thoes pesky kingpin springs = WFO crossover steering arms eliminate the king pin springs all togeather = no more DW
Just my .02c
 
supersize75k5 said:
a stabilizer i feel is a band-aid not a proper fix
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whatever you want to call it, its been working for about 6 years now. i took them off about 2 years ago cause i smashed the heck out of the bottom one and the wobble came right back

73redblaze said:
why do d60's develope death wobble?? iv heard of so many accounts of this. makes me wanna stay with my 3/4 ton d44
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i think it was way worse in my 10 bolt
 
Burt4x4 said:
The main cause is the king pin springs deflecting = true death wobble will shake the sh*t outa your truck HARD and SCARY.

#1 fix = get rid of thoes pesky kingpin springs = WFO crossover steering arms eliminate the king pin springs all togeather = no more DW
Just my .02c
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huh. So what does it use in place of the springs? Do they actually work?
 
Sure does, the steering arm does not cone up to house the spring, instead of a spring pusing down on the kingpin cone there are shims and you use the shims to set the preload on the white cone, insted of the spring. Now WFO has the newer style that has a set screw ontop the steering arm that alows you to set the pressure without swapin in or out shims.
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You can see the arm is flat on top, no cone...not a very good pic...were the cone normaly would be is now just a zerk fitting.
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No spring no deflection no DW :bow:
 
Burt, who tapped your gear box? Don't think I have ever seen the ports side buy side like that. Is that something special to the Gen one style boxes? Have any measurments you'd like to share so I could replicate?

Ah Opps, sorry for the hi jack.
 
my gmc with 35's gets death wobble sometimes, d44, 14bff, and all new moog ball joints, tie rods, and drag link ends, i've checked wheel bearings, and did my alignment on a brand new infrared rack.....twice cause i though i messed it up somehow...i even shimmed my caster to factory spec.....could this be caused by my o/e steering box with 165k miles? it dosen't have excessive play, 1/8" at the steering wheel
 
Mudstud said:
Burt, who tapped your gear box? Don't think I have ever seen the ports side buy side like that. Is that something special to the Gen one style boxes? Have any measurments you'd like to share so I could replicate?

Ah Opps, sorry for the hi jack.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think that is a PSC box.
 
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