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Optima batteries, 4/10/18...battery status update

Is there an Optima wall of shame for the not so stellar Optima stories? :ears:

There was some discussion about a Wall of Shame for people who use RedTops in vehicles with winches, have car alarms installed by colorblind illiterates or have $19 amps connected to the 12 volt constant, but we never got beyond the talking stages.

Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
 
There was some discussion about a Wall of Shame for people who use RedTops in vehicles with winches, have car alarms installed by colorblind illiterates or have $19 amps connected to the 12 volt constant, but we never got beyond the talking stages.

Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries

Is there an assumption on your part that I fall into any of those categories Jim? :angry1:

My experience with my Redtop has been that it won't hold a charge even when connected to nothing. When it is connected, it's connected to a truck that is 100% stock, unmolested wiring. My truck does have a stereo that is wired cleanly, no constant 12 volt anything. My Optima troubles were clear and present before the stereo was installed, and previous to the stereo there was a factory AM/FM radio only. No amps or anything else hinky.
 
Is there an assumption on your part that I fall into any of those categories Jim? :angry1:

My experience with my Redtop has been that it won't hold a charge even when connected to nothing. When it is connected, it's connected to a truck that is 100% stock, unmolested wiring. My truck does have a stereo that is wired cleanly, no constant 12 volt anything. My Optima troubles were clear and present before the stereo was installed, and previous to the stereo there was a factory AM/FM radio only. No amps or anything else hinky.

No tRustyK5, I apologize for my mis-interpretation of your use of the smiley face with the big ears. I thought you were posting that question to be funny, so I was posting a response to be funny as well. Frankly, I didn't know anything about you or your vehicle, I was just recalling some of our favorite "even though I screwed up, your battery still sucks" stories.

So, tell me about your vehicle and your battery. What was the voltage of your RedTop when it was fully-charged and disconnected from everything and how long did it take for it to lose how much voltage? From what you posted, it sounds like you are describing two different vehicles. Is it 100% stock with unmolested wiring or does it have an aftermarket stereo that has required some wiring changes? What kind of vehicle (vehicles) is this? Thanks!

Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
 
I have a 1990 Blazer, and when I bought it it had the Interstate battery in it as well as a Warn 8274 up front. One of the first things I did was remove the Warn and all the associated wiring as the winch was damaged, not connected and the bumper was ugly.

At this time there was nothing aftermarket wired to the truck, as I said unmolested. The battery it had was old, so I splurged for the Red Top Optima. I drove it for a few months before parking it in favor of my pick-up which is much easier on fuel. Two weeks later the Optima was dead.

I charged the Optima, and had no trouble doing so although I did notice it was different than a regular battery. On the 2 amp setting it was drawing nearer to 6-8 amps for the first hour or two. It did fully charge though.

About 6 months after I bought the Optima I installed the stereo, and used the factory wiring to do so. i drove it again for a couple of months, then it sat again...and the Optima died again. I charged it once again, moved the truck and disconnected it completely. A few weeks later I re-connected it as I needed to move the truck and the Optima was dead. This time I got out the multi-meter and checked voltage. 5.86 volts. I charged it once again, moved the truck and after letting it sit for a few hours I checked the voltage again and saw 12.6 (I'd have to go back and check my other thread for the exact number) I also charged the old Interstate which had been sitting dead in my shed for over a year. It read ~6 volts and charged to ~12.5. I set the Interstate in the engine compartment, disconnected the Optima and checked voltage daily for about a week.

Rather than repeat myself...here is the link.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289847

I was seeing the Optima dropping pretty quick so I hooked it up to the Interstate with good cables and then charged at the 2 amp setting for 40 hours or so (unintentional, and a bit of a story...)

Both batt's read at 12.75 when I unhooked them and let them rest for 6 hours or so.

That was a week ago. I just went and checked them and currently the Interstate reads 12.59 volts. Not bad for an 8 year old abused battery that has more than likely seen a fair bit of winch time. The Optima reads 12.10 volts...

I can continue checking over a longer time frame if you want, but i'm not optimistic as I've already seen the Optima discharge over time when not connected.

FWIW I recently had to replace the batteries in my Pick-up. I was thinking of a pair of Red-Tops, but in the end I didn't have enough confidence in them. I bought a pair of traditional lead acid batteries instead.
 
I have a 1990 Blazer, and when I bought it it had the Interstate battery in it as well as a Warn 8274 up front. One of the first things I did was remove the Warn and all the associated wiring as the winch was damaged, not connected and the bumper was ugly.

At this time there was nothing aftermarket wired to the truck, as I said unmolested. The battery it had was old, so I splurged for the Red Top Optima. I drove it for a few months before parking it in favor of my pick-up which is much easier on fuel. Two weeks later the Optima was dead.

I charged the Optima, and had no trouble doing so although I did notice it was different than a regular battery. On the 2 amp setting it was drawing nearer to 6-8 amps for the first hour or two. It did fully charge though.

About 6 months after I bought the Optima I installed the stereo, and used the factory wiring to do so. i drove it again for a couple of months, then it sat again...and the Optima died again. I charged it once again, moved the truck and disconnected it completely. A few weeks later I re-connected it as I needed to move the truck and the Optima was dead. This time I got out the multi-meter and checked voltage. 5.86 volts. I charged it once again, moved the truck and after letting it sit for a few hours I checked the voltage again and saw 12.6 (I'd have to go back and check my other thread for the exact number) I also charged the old Interstate which had been sitting dead in my shed for over a year. It read ~6 volts and charged to ~12.5. I set the Interstate in the engine compartment, disconnected the Optima and checked voltage daily for about a week.

Rather than repeat myself...here is the link.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289847

I was seeing the Optima dropping pretty quick so I hooked it up to the Interstate with good cables and then charged at the 2 amp setting for 40 hours or so (unintentional, and a bit of a story...)

Both batt's read at 12.75 when I unhooked them and let them rest for 6 hours or so.

That was a week ago. I just went and checked them and currently the Interstate reads 12.59 volts. Not bad for an 8 year old abused battery that has more than likely seen a fair bit of winch time. The Optima reads 12.10 volts...

I can continue checking over a longer time frame if you want, but i'm not optimistic as I've already seen the Optima discharge over time when not connected.

FWIW I recently had to replace the batteries in my Pick-up. I was thinking of a pair of Red-Tops, but in the end I didn't have enough confidence in them. I bought a pair of traditional lead acid batteries instead.


Ive had the same experience when I had a redtop in the chevy. It was awesome until my o2 sensor heater connecter in the fuse block accidentally got plugged into a constant by a friend who knocked it out while he was helping me work on the truck.

Well I found the problem and corrected it. The damn optima would NEVER hold a charge again no matter what I did. So I warrantied it. That was when I started catching batteries from that "bad batch" of redtops they had a few years ago and it left such a bad taste in my mouth I swore Id never by one again.

Ive had my Diehard Platinum (rebranded Odyssey) for a year now during which it sat in 10* whether and waste started for some time and it never skipped a beat.


As a side though because I like to know, Jim isnt the redtop designed for automotive deep cycle applications such as winches and the yellowtop just suppose to be a superior starting battery or do I have that backwards?
 
I am a fan of Optima batteries. I currently have 3 red tops in separate vehicles and 2 blue tops operating in a boat.
 
red top is the starting battery and the blue is the deep cycle I think. Not sure what the yellow one is.

EDIT, just looked it up. Yellow is a deep cycle/starting battery.
 
I also, but I'm down to 86% now...thanks dudes of CK5.
 
Is there an assumption on your part that I fall into any of those categories Jim? :angry1:

My experience with my Redtop has been that it won't hold a charge even when connected to nothing. When it is connected, it's connected to a truck that is 100% stock, unmolested wiring. My truck does have a stereo that is wired cleanly, no constant 12 volt anything. My Optima troubles were clear and present before the stereo was installed, and previous to the stereo there was a factory AM/FM radio only. No amps or anything else hinky.

thanks rene; that's the impression i got also and just thought maybe i was being too sensitive.

from what i have seen, i am not too impressed with the optima's. got a couple in my 01 dodge 3/4 ton tow rig and the passenger is junk. they are yellow tops. my 2000 dodge dually tow rig is still running the mopar batteries.
got a blue top that was in a cherokee that wouldn't keep a charge. a couple of red tops that crapped out.

of course, i am just a drunken redneck hack that obviously doesn't know how to wire a winch or even have a vehicle.
 
That sucks! I was about to buy two yellow tops this week! Guess I will be supporting a different company. I will also unlike them on Facebook and add a few negative comments. They need to get their chit in order. Seems to me, looks like another Balistic Fab business. Going to FB now.

What brand should I buy?
 
Hi Jim-

I looked at the wall of power and it is only old batteries that are featured. I wonder how a new red top against an old Gates would do. What has changed since the Gates days? Are the new ones still as good?

thx for your help


I apologize for any confusion guys, especially to David. Social media is still a relatively-new endeavor for us and sometimes our wires get crossed along the way. I've been trying to direct people with impressive Optima battery stories to our Wall of Power page for almost two years now. We've heard some pretty amazing stories in that time, including David's and he will be the third person we've brought to SEMA in conjunction with our Wall of Power initiative, along with Chris Becker and Brandon Peterson.

I don't know what Optima has planned in the future for our Wall of Power, but if you have a story (or know someone who does) that you think would be worth submitting, I would encourage you to do so. It doesn't cost anything but a few minutes of your time and could result in some pretty cool opportunities.


Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
 
If you are sending Dave to SEMA, I take back what I said earlier in this thread. I should have read the past couple pgs. instead of just the last.

If your looking for a real man with a real story about your batteries, Dave is the man!

Again, sorry for the angry post earlier.



I apologize for any confusion guys, especially to David. Social media is still a relatively-new endeavor for us and sometimes our wires get crossed along the way. I've been trying to direct people with impressive Optima battery stories to our Wall of Power page for almost two years now. We've heard some pretty amazing stories in that time, including David's and he will be the third person we've brought to SEMA in conjunction with our Wall of Power initiative, along with Chris Becker and Brandon Peterson.

I don't know what Optima has planned in the future for our Wall of Power, but if you have a story (or know someone who does) that you think would be worth submitting, I would encourage you to do so. It doesn't cost anything but a few minutes of your time and could result in some pretty cool opportunities.


Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
 
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