Those are some pretty cool pictures Larry. Jess really liked them also.
Those are some pretty cool pictures Larry. Jess really liked them also.



Rover guys go overlanding
Toyota guys go on expeditions
Chevy guys go camping.
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I like this!
Larry it may just be me but you make it sound like to takes something special or you have to be special to do this stuff.
I also have been all over Utah in a completely stock 97 f250 supercab long bed 4x4 and never had a problem. I have only been stuck in the snow with that truck in northern ut hunting a special season for antelope. That was probably the closet I ever came to having a problem but a few hours with my high jack and we were out of there. I easily could have spent that few ours hiking back to the highway and been fine.
If it takes 6 hours to drive in chances are it will only take that long to walk out. There's a place on the south slope of the Unitas that we drive into that takes 4 or 5 hours to get into but it's only 11 miles. In my old Ford your lower back would have a rug burn from bouncing around in the seat. I could easily walk out of there in less than 4 hours.
I'm not trying t be a dick but it doesn't take anything special really to see most of the back country Utah has to offer and probably the same thing goes for the rest of the other western states to.
The hardest thing for most people is gonna be the time.

No, no… not at all. All you need is a durable vehicle and the knowledge to fix it when something breaks. Everything else is just a bonus. The Dodge that goes along on our long trips is practically bone stock. Being a dick? Well, that might be debatable.![]()

You would be surprised how many people here in SLC never have been up in the mountains, a stones throw away, I know I am every time I meet one.
To keep it on topic I have always loved the Quigley's (spelling) conversion van idea but I want to be able to access my entire engine with a bit more ease than a van provides.
If it takes 6 hours to drive in chances are it will only take that long to walk out. There's a place on the south slope of the Unitas that we drive into that takes 4 or 5 hours to get into but it's only 11 miles. In my old Ford your lower back would have a rug burn from bouncing around in the seat. I could easily walk out of there in less than 4 hours.
it doesn't take anything special really to see most of the back country Utah has to offer and probably the same thing goes for the rest of the other western states to.

. Who needs 4wd anyways?That's it. I'm saling everything and buying a motorhome!. Who needs 4wd anyways?


. Ok. So you called my bluffThis *may* be true, but one thing that must be kept in mind is that Larry refuses to go into the southwestern desert unless it is at least 115*F. With that in mind, the amount of water that would be required for five to six hours of strenuous hiking in that heat with no shade makes it very impractical and tremendously dangerous. Most likely, IF you made it to a highway, you would be so dehydrated you'd forget who you are, how you got there and why you went. If the situation allowed you to wait until dark (non-life/death situation) you would probably stand a much better chance of making it provided you could successfully dodge the creepy crawlers.
THIS!!
If anybody gleans ANYTHING out of this thread, this is the MOST IMPORTANT STATEMENT MADE. Way too many people believe the CK5 mantra that in order to take their vehicle on a trail that it must have the following equipment:
Dana 60 front axle with a locker
14 bolt full floater rear axle with a locker
203/205 doubler transfer case setup
Massive front and rear bumpers
Minimum 37" tires with beadlocks and rock rings
56" front springs for maximum flex
minimum ten point roll cage
hydro assist steering
etc, etc.
We have seen it time and time and time again. Someone new to the truck/offroad scene buys a nice truck, K5, Suburban, whatever that is very capable in its current form, but instead of fixing whatever issues it has, they proceed to instantly tear it into a million pieces (the easiest and cheapest part of ANY build) intent on doing a full-on build because that is what everyone on the K5 site does. The unfortunate thing is that the vast majority(!!) fall off the first page, then the second, then the third until they languish to a point the owner is willing to sell the immobile mess to anybody that will pay anything even resembling scrap price for it (I was very near this point myself). I think with all of the super-builds that go on here that many people lose sight of just how capable these trucks were from the factory. Now don't get me wrong, I am in awe of some of the builds that go on around here and elsewhere and often times take ideas from their projects. Yeah the super-builds can do some amazing things, no doubt about it, but I have no interest in doing those kinds of things (or buying/maintaining the super-double-throwdown, high-zoot parts required for those rigs--the price of tires alone scares the hell out of my wallet and those wear out and need replacing occasionally). I'm way too cheap for that hobby.
Larry and I have rigs that have a couple of the "must have" items (axles) in them (mainly because we have motors that can destroy axles with an un-intended blip of the throttle), but we have a mutual friend that we travel with who runs a bone stock (new motor, trans and transfer case--that's it--seriously) 1970 K20 Suburban. Now mine has a lift and a locker, but his has nothing. No lift, no locker, no disc brakes anywhere on it and you know what?? He goes everywhere I go. Have I been places his rig would not be able to make it to/through?? Yes, but very few. When running a trail I will pass an obstacle and think boy I am glad I have the ground clearance or the locker or the whatever and I look back and he rolls right over it with none of the above. It really puts the "must have" equipment in perspective. I think too many people have forgotten what these trucks can do with no help from the aftermarket. Make your rig reliable and drive it. I have done the build. I have done the driving. The driving is much more enjoyable.