Off?
I don't know. Are your hands and face sticky?
I don't know. Are your hands and face sticky?
So do A/T'sYup, fake beadlocks scream hardcore...![]()
You all make a valid point. Some have a similar setup that is working fine and I'm happy for them. MY point and opinion is that some people have exceptional fab skills and can create a diamond out of a turd. However, most of us, including myself, don't always have the skills we think we have and try to fab a part that may look reliable and safe at face value but in reality it is a disaster waiting to happen. Too many times on this site I see guys trying to take the short cut and doing half-assed crap because they would rather spend countless hours trying to fab parts that can otherwise be bought for less than the time and materials it took to make. Plus these purchased parts have had many hours of testing and engineering put into them to insure quality and strength. Take for example the DIY4X and ORD Shackle flips. For $180.00 I feel that is the best option. The excuse of having the desire and accomplishment of doing the work your self is obsurd. We all have plenty of things to do to our rigs ourselves and leave the crazy stuff to the pros. I know I'll have a lot of push back from these comments so let me have it.![]()
I will send you back you're $25 membership fee if you promise to never return to CK5.So do A/T's
This makes no sense...... I think someone must have sneaked-in and typed this on your computer while you were still logged in to CK5.
Welcome to the "new" CK5..... BOUGHT not BUILT.
Pleh.
It is a bit jumbled.
60 and you got a dealI will send you back you're $25 membership fee if you promise to never return to CK5.
You're not worth 60 cents. How about you pay me $60 and I put you on my ignore list?60 and you got a deal
I bet others would pitch in if you made a thread in the lounge
I forgot about the ignore list! Thanx for reminding me Wes!You're not worth 60 cents. How about you pay me $60 and I put you on my ignore list?
Yeah, a bit hacked but it should make my point if you read it REAL SLOW like a 1st grader.It is a bit jumbled.
And sometimes people are just better off having bought parts rather than them building them. It's just real life brother.

The shackle brackets on your trucks are stronger than the ones on a dump truck
Once again, you prove that you are on the top of your game!




Well said. The only thing I would add is just because something doesn't look pretty, doesn't mean it's no good.I understand your comments, my reading comprehension is actually quite good....
The objection is with your generalizations. It's clear that you have a fear of fabrication and don't trust yourself to build safe parts. Fair enough. Nobody will fault you for knowing your own limitations and buying someone else fabricated parts instead of building something of questionable strength yourself.
However, your conclusion that most of us should just trust the "experts" at ORD or DIY4X is ludicrous. There are plenty of people on this site who have the knowledge and skill to build their own parts (and DO!).... As a self-described novice, you are not a credible expert on what is safe vs. unsafe.
With one more plate across the top of that hanger, that homebrew flip will be every bit as suitable for the task as an ORD or DIY4X flip....for a total cost of maybe $5......not $180. Spending more does not guarantee a more suitable part, and being able to build it yourself cheaper does not automatically make the solution less valid or safe.
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I understand your comments, my reading comprehension is actually quite good....
The objection is with your generalizations. It's clear that you have a fear of fabrication and don't trust yourself to build safe parts. Fair enough. Nobody will fault you for knowing your own limitations and buying someone else fabricated parts instead of building something of questionable strength yourself.
However, your conclusion that most of us should just trust the "experts" at ORD or DIY4X is ludicrous. There are plenty of people on this site who have the knowledge and skill to build their own parts (and DO!).... As a self-described novice, you are not a credible expert on what is safe vs. unsafe.
With one more plate across the top of that hanger, that homebrew flip will be every bit as suitable for the task as an ORD or DIY4X flip....for a total cost of maybe $5......not $180. Spending more does not guarantee a more suitable part, and being able to build it yourself cheaper does not automatically make the solution less valid or safe.
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I go away for the weekend and this is what this thread has turned in to!!??