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Planning my garage - fab tool recomendations

My thoughts..

Plasma cutter- Hypertherm for sure. Or Thermal Dynamics. Go for atleast the PowerMAX 600. The smaller machines will cut 1/4" plate but it's ALOT slower and the cut is messier and will need cleanup. I have a PowerMAX 1000G3, 60amps IIRC, it will haul ass on 1/2" plate and leave a cut that you don't have to cleanup at all to weld.

Welder- I like the Lincoln machines btter than the Millers. Got a Lincoln PowerMig 200/215..(Can't rememebr if its the 200 or 215) Lincolns seem to have a softer/easier arc and also seem to start hotter, thus less spatter and popping/farting at the begiing of a weld on cold steel. Another advantage to the Lincolns, is that you can buy the less expensive Tweco brand consumables. You have to buy the Miller brand stuff with a Miller machine. One thing I do like on the Millers is the gun itself. The Lincoln gun feels alittle cheap and not well balanced. It's also angled waaaay to much to be comfy. It's just awkward.

Air compressor- Get a nice 220 volt 60 gal tank type machine. Ours is 17cfm @175 PSI. It'll actually run a die grinder on full tilt for a just under a minute before it kicks on. and its waaaay quiter than the little 110 compressors.

Electrical outlets- wherever you plan to place your welder and plasma cutter, put two 220 plugs right next to each other. Put two of them next to each other were ever you plan on putting one. That way you can have both machines plugged in at once. The way my shop is set up, I only have 1 220 plug. If I'm welding, and have to make a quick cut with the plasma cutter, I have to stop, turn the machine off, walk over to the plug, unplug it, plug in the plasma cutter, make my cut, then repeat the process again. So much easier to have them both plugged in at the same time.

Chop saw- http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=159

Those things are the coolest things ever. Unless you want to spend $4k on a Brobo cold saw with lquid coolant flood thing etc...Anyways, DO NOT get one of the abrasive wheel saws. They'll drive ya crazy with all the smoke and dust, the noise and inabilty to cut a straight line. And no chance in hell to get a good angled cut with the adjustable fence....when the things says it's set an 45 Degrees...It's not.:crazy:
 
A heavy duty stantionary grinder is night too. I love having the one in the shop at work, wish we had one at home.
 
KidJethro said:
My thoughts..

Plasma cutter- Hypertherm for sure. Or Thermal Dynamics. Go for atleast the PowerMAX 600. The smaller machines will cut 1/4" plate but it's ALOT slower and the cut is messier and will need cleanup. I have a PowerMAX 1000G3, 60amps IIRC, it will haul ass on 1/2" plate and leave a cut that you don't have to cleanup at all to weld.

Welder- I like the Lincoln machines btter than the Millers. Got a Lincoln PowerMig 200/215..(Can't rememebr if its the 200 or 215) Lincolns seem to have a softer/easier arc and also seem to start hotter, thus less spatter and popping/farting at the begiing of a weld on cold steel. Another advantage to the Lincolns, is that you can buy the less expensive Tweco brand consumables. You have to buy the Miller brand stuff with a Miller machine. One thing I do like on the Millers is the gun itself. The Lincoln gun feels alittle cheap and not well balanced. It's also angled waaaay to much to be comfy. It's just awkward.

Air compressor- Get a nice 220 volt 60 gal tank type machine. Ours is 17cfm @175 PSI. It'll actually run a die grinder on full tilt for a just under a minute before it kicks on. and its waaaay quiter than the little 110 compressors.

Electrical outlets- wherever you plan to place your welder and plasma cutter, put two 220 plugs right next to each other. Put two of them next to each other were ever you plan on putting one. That way you can have both machines plugged in at once. The way my shop is set up, I only have 1 220 plug. If I'm welding, and have to make a quick cut with the plasma cutter, I have to stop, turn the machine off, walk over to the plug, unplug it, plug in the plasma cutter, make my cut, then repeat the process again. So much easier to have them both plugged in at the same time.

Chop saw- http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=159

Those things are the coolest things ever. Unless you want to spend $4k on a Brobo cold saw with lquid coolant flood thing etc...Anyways, DO NOT get one of the abrasive wheel saws. They'll drive ya crazy with all the smoke and dust, the noise and inabilty to cut a straight line. And no chance in hell to get a good angled cut with the adjustable fence....when the things says it's set an 45 Degrees...It's not.:crazy:

Totally agree on Lincoln versus Miller. If you have ever had the chance to run a Miller and a Lincoln back to back the difference is very obvious. I've never run a lincoln gun though. All the Lincolns I've ever run had either Tregascus or Tweco guns.

Rene
 
Absolutely. Keep an eye out for a good used American made lathe. I got an awesome deal on a Sheldon 11"x56" lathe by watching the classifieds. Got it for $400 with some tooling. When you need it, it is indespensible. I recently had to turn down my hubs on my D70 to fit 3/4 ton rotors. It was sweet to just chuck it up and start making chips. Have also made a carrier bearing puller for the same axle and some sweet, heavy duty shackles. It is also a fascinating tool, I really enjoy watching it work. Get one with threading capacity and if you can find one with a swing of 13", you can turn most rotors on it. The lathe can be used as a drill press most times, and as a tubing notcher with the right size milling cutter chucked up in the headstock. With the things I have made I have easily gotten my investment back. I cant wait to find a great deal on a milling machine, then you can REALLY start fabbin'.
 
JK5 said:
I don't know if this is the type of bandsaw Mike was talking about...
This is the one I'm looking at from Mcmaster-Carr.

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It's nice to drop some steel in...and let it do the work.

We have one like that at work. Works great for what I use it for.
 
That is the one I have, and it works well enough with the new stand.

This one is much better if you want to drop the coin.
7x12

This is the one I would buy if I had it to do again.
6.5 x 10
or this
5x6
 
Thanks everyone for all the input! There's alot of suggestions here that are really helpful, and a few that would be nice but won't work for me.:p: I have a 2 story house and the garage is on the first floor (obviously), and there's a room above it, so ethe ceiling is only 9 feet or so. A lift wouldn't do me any good at all, so a tranny adaptor for a foor jack has to do the job for me.

Thanks to those that made specific suggestions on tools to buy, the bandsaw idea is great, I'm going to have to add that to the list.

Rene, your list is perfect, exactly the kind of help I was looking for.:D I have a decent air compressor now but I plan on getting a much bigger one, so I'll probably go for the bigger plasma cutter.

What are the benefits and drawbacks to the various tube benders? I was looking at the protools, what makes the JD2 better?
 
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